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Giants win, Eagles still waiting

Eli Manning proved he is an elite quarterback with his performance in Sunday night's Super Bowl win over New England. He is certainly in the conversation now with Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers and big brother Peyton...in fact, of that group, only Brady has more Super Bowl wins that Manning.

And to think, Eagles fans were happy to see Eli lining up under center in the early years, because he was easily rattled. No longer.

Manning is easily the best quarterback in the NFC East and Tom Coughlin the best coach. It's hard to understand how the Giants can muddle along for much of the season, then turn it on when it counts.

Their two Super Bowl wins in the past 4 years came against Brady and the Patriots...underdogs both times. And this Giants team certainly had its flaws.

The defensive line is sensational, but the linebackers aren't much more distinguished than the Eagles group. The secondary isn't as good as the Eagles. But whose defense would you rather face this year?

It's laughable that Jeffrey Luries proclaimed several years ago that the Eagles were the NFL's gold standard. The NFC East now owns 12 Super Bowl titles...5 by Dallas (but none since 1996), 4 by the Giants and 3 by Washington. And a big fat zero by the Eagles. In fact, the other three teams all have more Super Bowl titles than the Eagles have appearances.

It used to be that Eagles fans had reason to believe that they'll get that title soon because up until 4 or 5 years ago, the Eagles were always getting to the NFC championship...but only to the title game once. Now they don't even sniff the Super Bowl.

When Jeffrey Lurie made his end-of-year assessment, he talked for 12 minutes on why he could have fired Andy Reid...then did an about-face and kept him. Did the Eagles play better at the end of the year? Yes. Do you have any hope that they'll get that first Super Bowl any time soon? I don't.

We need a coach like Tom Coughlin. It's amazing how this guy alaways seems to be one loss away from getting fired...yet he has two Super Bowl wins in 4 years over the Patriots.

I wonder how many more years Reid will get. At some point, I would think, Lurie will realize they won't win a championship with Reid at the helm.



Posted at 8:28am on February 6, 2012 by Big Don Voltz

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Comments on this post:

corzin
Mon, Feb 6, 2012 2:07pm
the way i look at it, if vick was healthy or the d could have held on to 1 more 20 point lead, the g-men don't make the playoffs, so we can't go too far in singing the giants praises

of course you can't count on vick being healthy, but even a bad defense should have one one of those games

but one of the problems with ditching reid is that i am 90% sure the next guy won't be better
larry

teatime
Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:04pm

teatime
Tue, Feb 7, 2012 9:16pm

A few key points:

(1) Only one game separated the Eagles and Giants this past season. (8-8 vs. 9-7) The Giants had many lucky moments on the way to the championship: 2 muffed punts by the 49ers, a miraculous Hail Mary catch by Hakeem Nicks, fumbles in the Super Bowl that were recovered by the Giants, and Gronkowski six inches away from catching the Hail Mary to win the championship for the Patriots.

In other words, a few lucky bounces and Hail Maries the other way, and the Eagles are hoisting the championship.

2. Giants fans were calling for Coughlin's firing in December the same way (some) Eagles fans are calling for Coach Reid's firing.

3. Unlike Rex Ryan, Coach Reid did NOT make any grandiose boasts about the Eagles. It was the sports media that built the Eagles up as a Dream Team, and the same sports media that tried to terminate Coach Reid when the Eagles did not live up to the media's boasts.

Very unfair.

Big Don
Wed, Feb 8, 2012 7:39am
Look, I have no illusions that the Giants were the best team in the NFC during the regular season. But they have a quarterback who has become one of the best in the NFL, their receivers may be the best, and their coach somehow seems to pull it all together every time the critics are calling for his head.
All I\'m saying is Andy Reid has been coach here for 13, 14 years, and only one trip to the Super Bowl...and since then, just one conference championship game appearance. Things are going in the wrong direction for the Eagles.
And I never criticized Reid for the Dream Team comments...I know he didn\'t say that. But he made the decision to make Juan Castillo his defensive coordinator, which everyone thought was a crazy move (and turned out to be). And I have never seen an Eagles team with a worse grasp of the fundamentals, like tackling.
One thing in Reid\'s favor is he was at a disadvantage last year with a lot of new players and the lockout impacting their chance to build chemistry. But like a lot of other people, I think Reid should be on a short leish...and no, I don\'t buy the argument that if you let him go, you could get someone worse. That\'s paralysis by analysis.

teatime
Wed, Feb 8, 2012 9:45pm

I can see your perspective and also share the frustration of our Eagles never having won a Super Bowl championship. (In the NFC East, the Cowboys, Giants and Redskins have all won Super Bowls)

If anything, I think Rex Ryan should definitely be fired from the Jets. Coach Ryan famously said before this season, quote, "we're gonna win the Super Bowl." It wasn't the media saying it. It was Ryan boasting it.

In the week leading up to the Jets-Giants rivalry game in December, Coach Ryan told the media many times that the Jets were obviously better than the Giants. It's poetic justice that Coach Ryan has to sit at home in humiliation and watch the other team in New York hoist the Lombardi Trophy.


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