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Growing fervor in UK to exit EU: British equivalent to U.S. Tea Party movement, secessionists, etc.?

Britain never gave up its beloved Pound Sterling for the Euro.

Now, anti-EU sentiment is surging within Britain for the UK to exit the European Union entirely.

I find this all very interesting, as I see a parallel between this anti-European fervor in the UK and the anti-Washington fervor in many parts of our country, including secessionist rhetoric. I suspect Americans' resistance to an impersonal, distant bureaucracy has roots in our colonial history.

Check out this account from The Los ANGELES TIMES about the building anti-EU movement in the UK...


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-1126-britain-europe-20121126,0,7164024.story

Posted at 7:16am on November 26, 2012 by Allan Loudell

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Comments on this post:

teatime
Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:18am
The peanut gallery is filled with so many nuts who spout absurd rhetoric...such as Alabama seceding from the Union. If there is any secession, it would be a sane group of Republicans dropping out of the GOP, which is now dominated by wingnuts who think the moon-landing was fake, wrestling is real, and there was no such thing as Dinosaurs.

A three-party system would do this nation some good: Democrats, Republicans, Tea Party, etc..

Mike from Delaware
Mon, Nov 26, 2012 10:29am
I'd call that third party a different name than the TEA party; it already carries too much negative baggage, but I agree that we need a third party that wants good fiscal government, traditional American values, and a smaller more efficient government that still meets the needs of the nation, without all the excesses we see in the DEMs to the left and the GOP to the right today.

Maybe call it the Balanced Government Party (BGP). The extremes of both left and right are killing this nation. The government has to work for ALL Americans, so that's why I call for the BGP party to be formed. It's time to bring some balance back to this nation.

JimH
Mon, Nov 26, 2012 11:27am
The ever-increasing encroachment of the federal version of the “nanny state” is a parallel to what the UK is facing. If Nigel Farage is correct that the EU “accounts for 75% of the laws that Britons must obey”, there is reason for concern. Likewise, when Texas has the 15th-largest economy in the world, why does it need Washington oversight (meddling)?

As we observe the 150th anniversary of the American Civil War, we are now fighting an “uncivil” war. The recent election indicates that a majority of voters want a return to slavery in this country. Not one where people buy and sell other humans. Rather one where the federal government owns the citizens. We are well beyond the point where sending more moderates to Washington will solve the problem. Nearly half of the citizens are taking from the citizens who have. Just as the slaves from Delaware to Texas looked to their “owners” for food, clothing and shelter, the 47% (if you believe that number) expect their food, clothing and shelter from the government (those of us who work for a living). There can be no compromise on this. Either we return to the time when government provided a safety-net to those suffering, or we continue to go all out and look to government as Santa Claus. But returning to the safety-net approach is no longer possible. Once government starts giving, it can never stop. When the administration basically says “if you don’t like it, leave” are we wrong to consider leaving? I say no!

Mike from Delaware
Mon, Nov 26, 2012 11:48am
Those of us who've worked our entire lives and made our monthly deposit (tax) into the Social Security thing resent being lumped into that 47% of folks on the dole, who are takers. Sure the career welfare queens are takers, but not everyone included in that 47% are. There are folks who work minimum wage jobs and still fall below the poverty line, so they pay taxes, but get them refunded back at tax time. They too are not takers, they are working.

Balance. Sure let's go after the folks who aren't working and have no plans on working, but let's not punish folks who've paid into the system for Social Security (fine if you want to change it for the 20-30 somethings they've got time to adjust), or the working poor who are working real jobs, but still are in poverty.

EarlGrey
Mon, Nov 26, 2012 12:53pm
http://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/11/26/jamie-foxx-calls-obama-our-lord-and-savior

WWOD? (what would obama do)

Mike from Delaware
Mon, Nov 26, 2012 1:00pm
I don't know who Jamie Foxx is (relative of Red Foxx?), but he's one lost individual if he said that.

mrpizza
Mon, Nov 26, 2012 8:13pm
Even more important than UK getting out of the EU: GET USA OUT OF THE UN!

mrpizza
Tue, Nov 27, 2012 5:39am
JimH: You hit that one right out of the park!

kavips
Tue, Nov 27, 2012 1:31pm
Back to Jim H, and Mr. Pizza's endorsement. There are things called elections, and that is how we have chosen to decide things here, in this country. One of the fickle aspects of our genetic makeup, is that people will take different sides of different issues.

It is now official... Romney lost with 47% of the popular vote... That is the sixth highest landslide in American history. How ironical and in a way prophetic, that number is.... 53% of American's choosing to discard the notion that cutting taxes helps anyone...

The concept that the Federal Government owns human beings, is to put mildly, whacky. And to surmise that Americans want to return to slavery, is bizarre. Seriously, would you want to be a slave? Making such an accusation is laughable.

No, Americans want a government to step up, and put the warlords in their place. This idea, that people can become so powerful, that government no longer matters, needs to be put to rest. The elected radical Governors of Florida, Wisconsin, Ohio, are embattled. They have crashed the economies of their states. Things are worse off in all those Tea Party states than they were two years ago..... This silly notion somehow that Grover Norquist is important,(who is he again?), that a pledge signed twenty years ago, controls the country in eternal bondage... With Grover, there are so many parallels to the actual Wizard of Oz it very well illustrates the point: pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.... Someone should put him in a balloon and send him back to Oklahoma....

No, 53% of America wants to go back, go back to the America of our childhood, when there was opportunity for all, when if you worked, you had a little left over, when you sent your kids to school, they learned something. When all believed in God, and everyone was allowed to worship as they pleased.

Ironically it seems the Democrats are now becoming the true Conservatives. Kind, wise, discerning, thoughtful, and very old school American. Wanting again to return us 50 years to those New Deal policies truly that kept America prosperous, and held off the next Great Depression for 80 years (which was of course when we abandoned them)..... Today's radicals are the Republicans, trying to slash and burn, wanting to eliminate good government, do away with every unions, privatize education, force God to be idolized in statues on public ground. In a bizarre twist, Eric Cantor is today's Eugene Debs. Ayn Rand is today's Sinclair Lewis. Paul Ryan is todays Jimmy Hoffa ... These are the crazies stirring up trouble, fostering discontent, creating movements that will destroy the America we've known.... Ironically these radicals are to be shunned like yesterday's Bolsheviks.

Republicans who lost, have ideas that were conjured to make the wealthy wealthier... The 47% that believes in selfishness, voted for the proper candidate. The rest, the 53%, said "let's leave the fools behind."...

Fortunately for all of us, it was decided correctly on November 6th. I'm sorry you were wrong.


EarlGrey
Wed, Nov 28, 2012 12:53pm
Nice propaganda speech...even Vlad Putin thinks our country is full of idiots for re-electing "the messiah"...Russia has learned from its past failures and now we embrace the same economic policies.

But sadly, I do agree that the GOP Republicans are turning into toothless dinosaurs...I wonder if there will be any strong Third Party candidates in 2014 to replace these RINOsaurs?

mrpizza
Thu, Nov 29, 2012 8:54pm
I think if Texas secedes, relocation may be a done deal for me!


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