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POLITICO: "Joe Biden 'intoxicated' by 2016 run"

I was going to resist posting another Joe Biden column, but this article from POLITICO just can't be ignored...



http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/no-joke-joe-biden-makes-2016-moves-86600.html?hp=t1_3

Posted at 8:18am on January 23, 2013 by Allan Loudell

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Comments on this post:

kavips
Wed, Jan 23, 2013 10:11am
Once more, pure unadulterated speculation by Politico.

There is no news here except for the meeting, which more likely than not was to explore how to make the most for the progressive cause, out of the next four years. After all, the Republicans just had one to do the same for their side.

This is a perfect example of a news organization trying to create a story, instead of report a story.

Let's look at the detail. Here are the key sentences....

“I took a look at who was there,” said longtime New Hampshire state Sen. Lou D’Allesandro, “and said to myself, ‘There’s no question he’s thinking about the future.’ ”

Look up Lou D/Allesandro and you find he is a state senator from the Manchester District who has held office since 1998. That would make him the equivalent of our Dori Conner. Can you imagine Dori Conner being cited as a credible witness were she invited to Romney's strategy session had she won? She, like any of us, would be gushing all over the first microphone thrust into our face....

Seriously! The world is going to take Dori Conner's opinion?

That is where Politico jumps the shark. If you don't read carefully, you get lulled into believing this is something solid, when actually it has no grounds of truth. The only "fact" we know, is that some state Senator from New Hampshire (one out of 24 up there) has "an opinion"...(that Biden was gearing up for a Presidential run) ... Well, send Politico my way! I have an opinion too!

The next major line"
"it might very well come down to a private chat with Hillary Clinton..."

Notice the use of the word "might". That word signifies it is not the source, but Politico's belief that this is the case. No one has expressed that idea outside Politico's inner sanctum. Make no bones about it, the actual text of this article is telling us that it is strictly Politico that is the one "speculating" that it "might" come down to a "private chat".

Third.... “He’s intoxicated by the idea, and it’s impossible not to be intoxicated by the idea,” said a Democrat close to the White House."

Seriously? Would you or I be intoxicated with the possibility of being president? Yes we would, and we would be so, even though we are so far removed from such a possibility. So then, how can one not be intoxicated when one is surrounded by it 24/7? That is a normal human emotion, far from any real news. In fact to be otherwise would be, well, inhuman. So again, let us check out the source of this leading statement?

Staffer 1st class? Intern #366? David Plouffe? All of which could apply to the speaker who we are only told, is "a Democrate close to the White House," but this story is only important if the "Democrat" being quoted is someone with the clout and rankings of the last one I mentioned. After all, Tony DeLuca had a secretary. Let's ask her what Jack Markell's ambitions are for 2016? Might as well, after all, if Politico is using the same low standard...

"Obama aides at times had to actively steer Biden to places where he was needed — like Pennsylvania — because he kept asking to be deployed to Iowa, New Hampshire and other early states."

Who is the source here? Again this is double-speculation. One, was it said at all, or is it just the opinion of Politico that is could have been said? Two, and if the actual occurrence did truly occur, was it done for Biden's own self-serving means? Or because out of his past experiences in both those two regions, Iowa and New Hampshire, he actually already has personal contacts which he could capitalize upon his past support to provide clout for the Obama campaign structure? Remember, both of those states were blue and shifted to red after the first debate. And remember, it was only after the last day, when voting was over, did New Hampshire finally shift from "too close to call" to being pretty overwhelmingly blue. And in Iowa, for the first time ever the Des Moines Register sided with the Republican.... (someone should check if they have since done any post-election clean-up and removed some of their top editors.)..... So, there are very valid reasons why Biden would want to bring up his being more important to the campaign in those two places than say PA, where he hasn't really been except to campaign a couple of times in Scranton....

“He wasn’t just doing fundraising the campaign assigned to him,” said a campaign adviser. “He was inviting people to the mansion to hang out and have dinner.” Biden was way more into the donors than Obama was. “He embraced it with a tirelessness and a gusto that even the president didn’t,” another campaign official said.

Here again. Two campaign officials, both unnamed. Really? These two campaign officials. How important were they? How deep into the planning and details of the campaign, did their knowledge reach? Were they perhaps those to whom one gave a clipboard and said, "here, call these people?"

Let's look at the statements. He invited them to his mansion. Is that former Naval Observatory? I know Biden's Delaware residence is not considered a mansion. So, is it a cheaper rate to use that residence or to pay a hotel convention hall? Economics seems to preclude the local venue might be the wiser.... It is what I would do. As for the Vice President embracing the Donors more than the President? Didn't Cheney do exactly that? Why yes! Of course! The Vice President has far more time than does the sitting President. But because Cheney did exactly the same thing, were we speculating Cheney was running too? No

So Politico is putting their own wishes, their own spin, onto things that are a normal part of the process.... This is simply an example of creating the news because you want it to happen. This is as if one says since Delaware has three counties, and Rhode Island has five, we've been lied to. Delaware is the smallest state in the Union, see? It has the fewest counties! Just because Politico says something doesn't make it true....

In fact, watching Politico over this last campaign as being itself as independent news, (reminder: how close were they on their election prognosis? I'll refresh: Romney has it in the bag.") I am well aware of how they cast theories into being believed to be hard facts.

Here are the true facts, tucked down at the bottom of their article....

"There are a number of reasons Biden might take a pass. To be blunt, he’s old. Biden is 70 now and would be 74 if he ran and won. He’s also old news in politics. The guy has been in Washington for almost two generations and hardly signals freshness or political vitality. He’s also run for president twice before and didn’t miss by inches either time; he bombed. More importantly, Joe Biden is not Hillary. She is a rock star with higher favorable ratings and the capacity to clear the field if she goes all-in. She is also a she — and Democrats are eager to elect the first women after electing the first African-American."

So here we have the truth, balanced by what? The opinion of one hereto unknown state Senator from New Hampshire, and two unnamed human beings who were loosely associated with the Obama campaign. Perhaps those two unnamed were Politico reporters who volunteered to help out their campaign for two hours? It could be, based on what Politico actually gave us....

In the future, if you read Politico, it should be for one thing. To discern exactly what the Republicans at the top thinking and then speculate how this works into their overall plan to come back into prominence next year.

The answer? Is that if they can make Biden into being perceived as a possible threat to the Presidency, they can shake more out of their donor base than they would if it were deemed to be Hillary, or if there was actually no one even out there right, now who was even on the radar....

And we all know. The Republican donor base (see Donald Trump) are easily misled and as a general rule, are not the "sharpest tools in the shed."......

Mike from Delaware
Wed, Jan 23, 2013 10:51am
Biden and Hillary will be pretty old by 2016. After having a young Prez (Obama), will the DEMS really want to go back to old and stodgy? Hillary does have the advantage over Biden, because she is a DEM "rock star" AND a woman.

Biden being an old European male is at a disadvantage and who's prone to only opening his mouth to change feet when he talks, probably isn't going to be successful in running for Prez. He's sort of like the DEM version of Dan Quayle. Obama is smart enough to know how to utilize Joe to Obama's advantage, but it seems that most folks don't take Biden very seriously. Not good if you want to be the person called at 3 a.m. for some nuke emergency.

Biden and Hillary are the power-brokers today in the DEM party, but in 3 years when nominations start again, we probably will see other lesser-known DEMS come to the surface and as young turks always do, challenge the old, tired folks to relinquish their leadership roles to the next generation.

JimH
Wed, Jan 23, 2013 12:19pm
Mike, I also was thinking of Dan Quayle this morning. The similarity is striking. Former VP's, even those who lose re-election, believe they MUST run for the top office. No, they really do NOT have to!

Mrs. Clinton and the Vice-President need to realize their generation is behind us. In Clinton's case, a large number of voters are simply tired of her and her husband. It's over.
Biden was a senator during the Vietnam War. His political career belongs to the ages.

teatime
Wed, Jan 23, 2013 2:11pm
Just because we agree that Biden/Hillary are too old for the Presidency doesn't mean that THEY think so, or won't run.

I have an 80% certainty that Biden will run in 2016, assuming he's in good health. He must want it more than ever because he's been so close to the Presidency.

Hillary, if she's in good health, is about a 99% chance she'll run.

If you exclude Biden and Hillary from running, who else would be the overwhelming choice for Democrats?


mrpizza
Wed, Jan 23, 2013 5:55pm
Joe Biden has been intoxicated since the day he was born!

kavips
Wed, Jan 23, 2013 11:02pm
Stop making fun of the Irish... :)


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