Delaware First State National Monument (and other national monuments), yes; White House tours, no
Vice President Biden today dedicates the First State National Monument, which our Congressional delegation fervently hopes is a precursor to full national park status.
But, a Republican congressman from Washington state assails the President's proclamations of national monuments in Delaware and elsewhere as a misuse of the Antiquities Act, which the congressman insists "was passed to allow a President to act when there was an emergency need to prevent destruction of a precious place."
House Natural Resources Committee Chair Doc Hastings (R-WA):
"President Obama has closed the White House to public tours, but he's unilaterally ordering the National Park Service to spend scarce dollars on little-known, privately-owned property in Delaware..."
How much money could it cost to make and put up a sign? Far less than the cost and staffing/security, etc., for the White House tours.
It seems that some Republicans just can't stand the fact that Obama is Prez and will look for anything to complain about. He won fair and square [If he hadn't, the GOP would have launch a massive voter fraud investigation] so let's get over it and move on.
The GOP makes itself look petty when they pile on Obama for everything he says and does. Pick your battles.
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 9:31am
Senator Craper now has his name on something. Can we forget about this, like everyone else will, in a week. It will not increase tourism, it will not provide any benefit. It was a waste of time and effort on Craper's part. Biden was heard saying "This is a tiny F'ing deal"
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 9:46am
Was the misspelling of Carper's name (to Craper) intentional, Arthur? I assume it WAS intentional because you did it twice.
But you do inadvertently bring up an interesting sidenote:
For many years, Tom Carper has been promoting this idea.
Yet, in some of the national accounts, Joe Biden is getting "credit". I just don't remember Joe Biden championing this cause in the past (if at all) as much as Carper.
Could it be that - as the Veep - Joe Biden eclipses Carper on this and ultimately receives greater recognition, and perhaps even Biden's name gets attached to the national monument/park?
Whether you agree with the concept of a national monument (or eventually, national park) for Delaware or not, one has to think Carper and his people would be seething, although, of course, utterly unable to say anything publicly about it!
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 9:58am
Yes, Allan it was intentional. I have never been a fan of his from way back in my days working for government and he was the Governor.
Mike said "How much money could it cost to make and put up a sign? Far less than the cost and staffing/security, etc., for the White House tours."
Considering all the man-hours put in to this over the last several years from the amount of time Craper spent harrassing other legislators, his staff putting together plans and materials, him arranging trips to various sites to promote his little park idea, I am sure enough was spent to staff White House tours.
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 11:51am
Mr. Loudell: Any idea on what the real cost of these National monuments will cost the nation long term?
The first big cost will be the visit from Scranton Joe...I'm sure he didn't travel by himself via AMTRAK for a photo-op like this.
"Officials from the Department of the Interior insisted Monday that the cost of operating five new national monuments would be small.
One official told MailOnline that compared to the department's $12.2 billion overall budget, 'a couple million - probably tens of millions - doesn't seem like much.'
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 11:54am
Tens of millions sounds like a lot of money to me for a few monuments...then again I don't have a $12.2 billion dollar budget. It is so much easier to spend OPM (other people's money).
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 3:50pm
What about Biden's $1,000,000+ trip to Paris? I'm sure that could have paid for a few staffers to walk around and point out rooms in the White House for a while.
White House closed for student tours yet open for LA Kings & Galaxy.
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 6:28pm
MFD: Obama won by scamming 51% of the population. So you're right, I can't stand that this third-world dictator won "fair and square" and is systematically destroying my country, all the way down to its core foundations. Is that the kind of President you want to be proud of? Not me.
By the way, I have the right to complain about him all I want because I voted and it wasn't for him. Only those who don't vote shouldn't complain.
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 6:32pm
I'm sure the sign costs a whole lot less than the security for Smokin' Joe to come and pat himself on the back. I also heard it said that this should help promote tourism for the city of New Castle.
That's just what we need. Battery Park packed to the gills with tourists. There goes the neighborhood!
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 9:01pm
The right wing kooks are out today.
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 9:13pm
wWelcome to the blog, henfan... Do you actually wish to add to the topics of discussion?
Mike from Delaware
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 9:19pm
Mrpizza: I didn't vote for Obama in 2012 either, but the right-wing picks at everything. They need something to complain about everyday, non-stop 24/7. It's one of the reasons I stopped listening to political talk. Problem with this constant complaining is that it just become noise after a while. I've gotten where I don't take much of what's said seriously, because I know more often than not it's not objective. Better to save it for something of real importance. This historic national monument sign surly isn't it. THAT's my point.
Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:37am
MikeFromDelaware: Absolutely. And since they quickly run out of valid complaints, they have to make up stuff or just resort to name-calling. And what they come up with is often ridiculous, yet they get incensed when they or their complaints get no respect. In past generations, there were demagogues to inflame the mob, but thanks to the Internet, now we have to hear demagoguery echoed back from the mob itself.
This representative from Washington illustrates the hypocrisy of the right on government spending. He complains about a monument in Delaware, not about the one created at the same time in the San Juan Islands in his own state. The mantra of the right is: Cut their stuff, not my stuff.
Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:46am
In fairness, both The SEATTLE TIMES & The SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER report Doc Hastings blasted the monument created for San Juan Islands as well.
Wed, Mar 27, 2013 7:49am
Mike: Right now this WH has given both sides more than enough to complain about and I will agree with you that the monuments are indeed a small story. Tens of millions in taxpayer dollars (estimated costs in the story Mr. Loudell attached) are nothing but a ripple in the massive ocean of Federal government's budget. Which is another reason that the 2 million dollars "saved" by cancelling the WH tours is obviously nothing but political.
Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:18am
Maybe the real issue should be is either or any of these places worth being considered a "national monument"? Delaware didn't have one and feels left out. Boo hoo. But these scattered pieces of property bring to mind Gertrude Stein's comment: "There's no there, there." Why would anybody want to waste gas? It used to be National Monuments and Parks meant something. They were places you'd heard about, read about. Independence Hall. Valley Forge. But this....?
If the White House tour isn't making money, charge more for tickets. Oh, but the PC crowd will cry about all the people who can't afford tickets. So, the PC solution is nobody can, if not everybody can. Not exactly nobody. There will still be tours for people who "know somebody." Maybe Disney or somebody could build an exact replica of the White House and give tours - complete with animatronic dead presidents. Maybe animatronic Jackie and Nancy as tour guides. Better than the real thing.
Wed, Mar 27, 2013 8:43am
henfan: Welcome to the great Allan Loudell news blog. I'm your resident right-wing kook, and proud of it!
I'm also a hen fan, and consider Elena DelleDonne to be the greatest thing since Chris Evert.
Wed, Mar 27, 2013 9:20am
The monument will create the same national attention as Delaware does - "What state is that in?"
Wed, Mar 27, 2013 10:01am
Arthur, you may be right. David Letterman mentioned the three new monuments in his monologue last night: San Juan Islands, Rio Grande, and Kim Kardashian's ass. Go figure.
Thu, Mar 28, 2013 3:11pm
Doc Hastings is obviously just another grandstanding Senator. If he were truly concerned about funding National Parks & Monuments, he'd lobby to cut off funding to the 3 National Parks & 3 additional National Monuments in his home state. To the contrary, Hastings has sponsored bills to INCREASE federal funding to national parks & recreation areas in his home state, including Lake Chelan & North Cascades NP. Typical GOP phony.
Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:16pm
henfan: Doc Hastings is from Washington state where the Republicans are generally as liberal as the Democrats.
Until we pay off a large part of the national debt, parks and recreation should definitely go on the back-burner. Of course, that ain't gonna happen. They'll upgrade the parks while cutting benefits to people who have paid in all their lives.
If government would just get out of the way, more private charities would step up to fund-raise national park restoration.
Mon, Apr 1, 2013 3:06pm
The White House Tours need to continue to be shut-down, even if just for the reminder that the sequester now begins in earnest after April 1.
The layoffs and cutbacks now begin. People start getting hurt now. Free tickets to the White House tours were a perk primarily used by the "Republican Congresspeople" to curry favor with their Red State constituents.... Now, those same are empty-handed, since they certainly don't want to "pay anything" out of their own pocket....
It is not like the Washington Monument is closed down or anything..... The crying over White House tours is real, because it hurts Republicans... Now those little old ladies and old men flying back to Middle America are all going 'humph... we should have voted Democrat. We'd at least be getting our tour then.."
In a perfect world, no one will vote Republican in 2014.
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