Hillary Clinton a slam-dunk for getting the 2016 Dem nomination? Not so fast...
If Hillary Clinton decides to seek the Democratic Presidential nomination, is she the prohibitive favorite?
Does she seemingly take all the oxygen away from her (potential) rivals for the Democratic nomination?
Will she have learned from the mistakes of her last campaign?
A conventional wisdom seems to be crystallizing that the former Secretary of State, former Senator, and former First Lady WOULD be the prohibitive favorite, and might force potential opponents to stay along the sidelines.
A few days ago, Tod Lindberg posted in The NEW REPUBLIC about how political figures sometimes run for President just to get the experience, hardly expecting to clinch the nomination on the first try. And Lindberg notes the next generation of potential Democratic Presidential hopefuls (Beau Biden & Gavin Newsom lead his list)...
Hillary certainly would be a tough person to beat. As one of the articles stated, I believe it said about 40% of Republicans gave her a good approval for the job she did as Secretary of State. Hillary isn't that polarizing figure she used to be [Rush has been asleep at the switch - heh heh].
As one of the articles mentioned, Joe Biden, if elected, would be 74 making him the oldest Prez, whereas Hillary would be 69, the same age the Gipper was when he became Prez.
After 8 years of having the "kids on the block" running the nation, the voters may be ready for that more mature "elder" statesperson who's got a boatload of experience, who is very smart, and articulate, meaning Hillary. Biden's Achilles Heal is he has the age and experience, but doesn't come across like an elder statemen, but more like the Court Jester. Plus the female voters will see Hillary as their best chance to finally get a woman elected President.
The DEMS see the Clinton's as their latest version of Camelot. DEMS love Bill and Hillary, sort of the way DEMS and many others in America, back in the day, loved JFK and Jackie. There are many folks who'd vote for Bill Clinton again if he were allowed to run again, so Hillary represents that only way of restoring the Clinton "Camelot" the DEMS long for. The Obama's weren't able to pull that off like the Clinton's did.
On top of all that, Hillary will be able to campaign that she knows from experience how to get rid of the debt, since she was there while husband Bill and Congress including Newt Gingrich and the GOP, worked together to achieve that goal, unlike it is now.
So assuming Hillary even wants the hassle of another Prez battle, and the fishbowl existence of living again in the White House and the demands that go with the job [and this time around officially being the Commander in Chief - as we all joke that she ran the country while Bill was busy with Monica. Speaking of Bill, he'd would be the First Husband - a job he'd probably be pretty good at doing. I think IF she truly wants it, and really makes a serious effort, she could win.
Many folks on both sides of the isle long for those days again, and Hillary could be the catalyst to take the nation back to the Future of the 1990's.
Tue, Apr 9, 2013 9:02am
IF we ever find out the truth behind Benghazi...will Hillary still be the front-runner? I'm sure the Democrats won't care but many other voters will.
I definitely think she will run but predict someone younger and more vibrant will once again steal her spotlight...maybe someone like Van Jones?
Tue, Apr 9, 2013 9:09am
Oh, my. Nobody cares about Benghazi anymore. Btw, did we ever find out who was responsible for the horrible lack of security that killed 220 Marines, 18 sailors, and three soldiers in the Beirut barracks bombing ??? Now THAT was incompetence of the highest level.
I'm sure Republicans won't care, but many other voters will....
Tue, Apr 9, 2013 10:44am
So if nobody cares, does that mean our ambassador wasn't murdered?
I understand the "news media" have lost interest in what really happened, but it did happen under Hillary's watch.
...and Congress still hasn't been allowed to see the many who survived the attack at the embassy in Benghazi that left the Ambassador and two others dead... Why is that?
Tue, Apr 9, 2013 11:13am
...Or maybe Hillary didn't know anything. Question is, who did make the final decision not to send in further support and who created the ridiculous propaganda story about the b-movie that supposedly caused the riots?
Reagan took responsibility for the catastrophe in Beirut...no imaginary VHS tape blamed...
Tue, Apr 9, 2013 11:24am
Amazing. The media speculate about Hillary's candidacy nearly 4 years away from the election. We're tired of hearing this debate every night ad nauseum. Is there something else we could talk about?
Tue, Apr 9, 2013 11:48am
I do not believe Mrs. Clinton has a lock on the nomination today any more than she did in 2008. There are several reasons why I believe this is true. Her experience is actually the main reason.
Sorry Mike, Rush has not been sleeping. Don’t forget he urged Republicans to change registration if necessary so they could vote for Hillary in the 2008 primaries. Any Leftist running against her in 2016 can simply say that she is so out of touch, even Rush supports her! What a ringing endorsement that would be!
Her experience is impressive. She has been a working senator from New York, unlike Mr. Obama who merely had the title Senator from Illinois. She served, apparently well, as Secretary of State. But what did she do when an ambassador’s life was threatened? So much for that 3am phone call she talked about in 2008. When the phone rang, she did not answer.
She was First Lady? Okay, she shared a bed with the President. Allegedly, a lot of other women did also. Monica for president anyone? I didn’t think so.
In short, a rarely spoken problem is even more of an issue now than it was in 2008. She has been around too long. Clinton fatigue was present in 2008 and it is worse now. She lived in the White House for 8 years. All that time she acted like she was co-president. Then she stole the New York Senate seat. Following her 2008 defeat, Mr. Obama removed her as a threat for 2012 by making her part of his administration. Easily the most intelligent thing he has done while in the White House. He kept her out of his way while also keeping her in the spotlight. In Britain, there came a time when Mrs. Thatcher had to go. She had outstayed her welcome. Her Conservative Party threw her out as their leader. Younger Democrats did that to Mrs. Clinton in 2008. She needs to take the hint and take on the role of party spokesperson and make money on the speaking circuit.
Tue, Apr 9, 2013 12:08pm
Time to repeal the first amendment. Then pass a law against anything in the media having to do with a coming election more than one year in advance.
Give it a rest!
700 Special Operations vets sign letter to get answers on Benghazi, Libya.
Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:40pm
In that letter I was expecting something new. This is just a rehash of what the committee has already determined....They ask exactly the same questions asked of Hillary.
Again, very few people care. It it perhaps indicative that only people in special operations themselves still have any interest enough to sign a letter asking for (another) full investigation. Being soldiers with a deaf ear to politics, I would venture they do not already know, that a systemic, thorough evaluation was already done and published and that a complete account answering each of those questions has been finalized.
The purpose of this letter is simply to drag on the only single possible negative that occurred to our current president, sort of like high schoolers putting a sign on the back of one that says "kick me" then walking behind him and smirking while pointing to the sign, so all others will take notice.
Republicans lack enough maturity to know it doesn't work. America loves Obama. He is the best president we've had in our lifetimes. He killed Bin Laden. He rejuvenated the American Auto Industry. He has led us through 13-14 continuous increases in GDP. He has given America it's highest corporate profits ever since records have been kept.
He has done it and maintained unemployment benefits for those out of work. He has had to achieve this success despite an opposition determined to do everything to make him fail. Basically he whooped you guys.
America is tired of anything Republican... As a nation we want to go forward. We don't enjoy being stuck in our seats for a 27 inning game that never ends, even when the score is predominantly stacked up in the Democrat's favors.
This Benghazi ploy, amounts to nothing but Republicans standing on the sidelines, completely removed from the main flow of activity, ...waving their tepid little hands, going..."woo,hoo! woo,hoo! remember me? Hey, over here!. Yeah! We're still here.. yep... Remember us?"
America is so tired of them.
Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:06pm
kavips: LOL...best president ever (that is hilarious).
Mr. Obama didn't personally kill Osama (that would be the same Spec Ops who want answers on Benghazi).
Additional information has started to come to light concerning what was really going on at the consulate in Libya (CIA gun-running to Syrian rebels) and I don't recall seeing/hearing any of that on the news...maybe I missed that one. What happened when Hillary received her "3 a.m. phone call"? And, where was BHO?...he went to bed.
Mike from Delaware
Tue, Apr 9, 2013 3:45pm
Kavips: You said, "America loves Obama. He is the best president we've had in our lifetimes. He killed Bin Laden. He rejuvenated the American Auto Industry. He has led us through 13-14 continuous increases in GDP. He has given America it's highest corporate profits ever since records have been kept."
If I didn't know better, I'd say we have a Republican President now. No mention of the lousy unemployment numbers, and for those who do have jobs, incomes continuing to drop as the top 2 percent's salaries have soared beyond anything imaginable, and YES, corporate profits are at an all-time high. Sounds very GOP to me.
Yes Obama and the DEMS have kept unemployment being paid out [to keep the serfs quiet], but most of those folks would rather have jobs paying a living wage, not the crumbs left over from the wealthy's banquet as a hand-out.
Obama even pushed for, and was able to get passed, the GOP version of health-care reform [remember Nixon and later the Heritage Foundation pushed forth what we now call Obamacare years ago]. Yes, Obama sounds more like a GOP Prez than a DEM.
Of course, NOW that Obama's got his second term, he's got to show his lib creds so he's pushing for legalized gay marriage and allowing any and all illegals a pathway to citizenship so they can then be elible to vote for the DEM party, and wanting to force religious organizations to pay for birth control and abortions via their health-care insurance.
So maybe it would be fair to call him Republican Lite.
Tue, Apr 9, 2013 7:35pm
MFD: Sorry, but in my mind Obama is a lot closer to being Fidel Castro than a Republican! No, this is not rhetoric. I'm really serious and frightened for the future of my country!
Mike from Delaware
Tue, Apr 9, 2013 10:35pm
Mrpizza: Don't see the Castro connection other than both have socialistic leanings, but as he's governed, seems like Obama's been in many ways a better Republican than Democrat.
Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:08pm
MFD: I can only hope you're right.
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