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UK's DAILY MAIL: Saudi Arabia warned U.S. in writing about Tamerlan Tsarnaev

Until now, only Russia had warned the United States about accused Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

Still unclear: How seriously U.S. officials treated the Russian warning, particularly if they assumed the Russians were driving their own agenda in Chechnya and Dagestan quite apart from international terrorism.

Now, the British tabloid - DAILY MAIL - reports the Saudis also warned the United States about the elder Tsarnaev brother, independent of the Russian claims.

A U.S. Department of Homeland Security official denied the agency received any such warning from the Saudis. A similar denial from the National Security Council.

Not mentioned in any of this, the status of the Saudi national who was described as a "person of interest", then described as yet another victim, then - by some accounts - deported.

Here's the DAILY MAIL account---


http://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

Posted at 7:11am on May 1, 2013 by Allan Loudell

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Comments on this post:

billsmith
Wed, May 1, 2013 7:37am
MikeFromDelaware: The Daily Mail also reports an attempt to ban "The Diary of Ann Frank" (the book) in Michigan. Mom says it made her daughter "uncomfortable." Claims the book is inappropriate for kids to read who are about the same age as the girl who wrote it.

billsmith
Wed, May 1, 2013 7:43am
It's settled. The Daily Mail says 15-year-old girls can buy Plan B, the "morning after pill" over the counter - no Rx, no note from parents. Ann Landers used to say the best birth-control pill was Aspirin, held between the knees. Now, Plan B is as easy to buy as Aspirin.

The law now says a 15-year-old girl can decide by herself to take the morning-after pill and even to have an abortion. But can't "give consent" to have sex with a person of legal age (although she can "consent" to sex with another kid). Dickens was right: The law is an ass.

billsmith
Wed, May 1, 2013 7:52am
I never thought I'd be happy to see anybody lose his job. The Daily Mail says Jock For Jesus Tim Tebow is officially unemployed - and likely to stay unemployed. Last year Denver dumped him, after he made a point of genuflecting on the field to show everybody how holier-than-thou he is. Now the NY Jets have dumped him and no other team is moving to pick him up. And the TV preachers talk about how god helps people. God didn't do much for Tim. Maybe he should have relied more on himself. Poor kid was home-schooled by his religious-fanatic parents and never stood a chance.

kavips
Wed, May 1, 2013 8:47am
I don't see much credibility in the Saudi claim. How would they know anything about a Chechen resident living in the US?

I cannot see Saudi's intelligence being that superior to the US's or Israel's. I can see the Russian intelligence connection as credible, but the Daily Mail, for me, is stretching credibility here and I notice there is no "go-to" person mentioned for which to follow- up....

Right now, based on the accepted view of the world at this time, this has every appearance of simply being made up. Allan, any other corroboration on this rumor?

Allan Loudell
Wed, May 1, 2013 8:58am
No, no other corroboration.

That said, the Saudis DID give the United States specific information about the so-called shoe-bomber, Richard Reid... and about some ink-cartridge bombs.

I find the Saudis' reported timetable interesting: That Tamerlan Tsarnaev was denied entry into the Kingdom for an Umrah (Less than the Hajj) to Mecca a month before he traveled to Russia.

Allan Loudell

billsmith
Wed, May 1, 2013 9:12am
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

What is the corporate media's interest in distracting the audience with fear-mongering about Boston, specifically, and terrorism, generally?

Just as a magician uses a scantily clad girl to divert the audience's eyes, so the corporate elite create enemies so people won't notice how they grab for money and power. They managed to use "communists" to scare people. Notice quickly "communists" replaced Nazis, and "terrorists" replaced "communists." Between citing some external threat, and talking about creating jobs (which they never seem to do), the one per cent gets away with whatever it wants. And the media help.

If the US really wants to stop terrorism, maybe it should stop doing things that earn the rest of the world's hate. Start by cutting Israel loose and forcing them out of the occupied territories. Then stop supporting compliant, greedy dictators - like the Saudi ruling family.

mrpizza
Wed, May 1, 2013 10:09am
billsmith: What about the greedy dictator we have in Washington?

It was God who provided the employment Tim Tebow had and it will be the same God who provides his future employment.

Mike from Delaware
Wed, May 1, 2013 10:38am
Billsmith: That's sad that some mom wants to ban the Diary of Anne Frank. Just because she doesn't want her daughter to read it, doesn't mean other girls or boys shouldn't get to read it. Hopefully, Michigan says NO to banning that book.

I agree with you that it makes no sense that a girl of 15 cannot give consent to having sex, but can get an abortion and the morning-after pill on her own without parental consent. If she's mature enough to do the last two, why not the first? Obviously, I believe she should be waiting until she's married, but given the fact there are a lot of teenage girls getting pregnant would imply I'm in the minority on that issue. But to criminalize concentual sex seems wrong IF she can legally do the other stuff.

As far as Tim Tebow goes, I've never been a big fan of big public displays of religious actions like that. I silently talk to the Lord every day, but no one else knows. I may be listening to Lutheran Public Radio on my computer at work at times [really enjoy their religious music channel], but I work alone and turn it off if someone comes in to my lab, it's for me to enjoy, not to jam down someone else's throat.

I silently give thanks for my meal in a restaurant [I dislike the showy prayers many do]. I've seen some athletes make a quick sign of the cross during games usually while sitting on the bench, not usually in camera view where the stadium is watching them like Mr. Tebow does, no splash or fanfare, it's a private thing between them and their Lord of giving thanks for whatever reason. I've no problem with that, but this showy stuff I think is the wrong approach, but that's just me.

billsmith
Wed, May 1, 2013 10:42am
mrpizza: Agree or disagree with the guy. Like him or don't like him. But phrases like "greedy dictator" make it hard to take you seriously. Besides, Mitt has much more money and Obama can't get anything done, so neither "greedy" or "dictator" fits.

Maybe god will provide employment for Tebow at Chick-Fil-A. I keep hearing that NFL owners have more money than god, so probably god can't afford an NFL franchise. Of course, god does have the Fighting Irish.

But if god provides employment, then you can't blame Obama for unemployment.

billsmith
Wed, May 1, 2013 10:50am
MikeFromDelaware: I doubt if god much cares who wins a football game. Asking god for help to give a concussion to another player, who is also asking god for help is crazy. Almost as crazy as soldiers on both sides of a war asking the same god to help them kill the soldiers on the other side. God probably does care about people killing each other in war. But football?
You remember the movie "Bruce, Almighty?" God gets fed up with all the petty, stupid things people keep bothering him with. One guy makes an especially annoying request and god lets him get all the prayers for a while so he can see what it's like.
Maybe Tim Tebow is out of the game because he was having a bad year and upped his praying and god got sick of it. Maybe sometimes god wants to people to pray less, work more and practice more.



Arthur
Wed, May 1, 2013 11:05am
I love how Tim Tebow is vilified for genuflecting but other players who make the sign of the cross and point to the sky are celebrated (even though they kill dogs, have several kids from several women, publicly cheat on their spouses, etc). Why is it we have to be tolerant of all religions with the exception of one?


Mike from Delaware
Wed, May 1, 2013 11:50am
I agree Billsmith that God probably isn't interested in a football game and certainly not about helping someone give another person a concussion. However, we are to be in prayer at all times, even when at work [so that's where those guys work] so silent prayers and reflection to God, etc, isn't a bad thing. I just am not into the showy stuff, but that's just my personal feelings. So Arthur may like it; I don't. So Arthur, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Who said anything about overlooking those things you listed? In the case of Vick, he did go to prison and paid his debt to society [more than many other celebrities do] so I may not like what he did, but until he does it again, it should no longer be an issue. Christ forgives and forgets; we are to do the same. I don't tolerate those folks cheating on their spouses, but I'm not God and it's not my job to judge them.

I just believe that Tebow puts up a barrier for the unsaved to come to Christ with his showy actions; obviously Arthur, you see it differently.

Arthur
Wed, May 1, 2013 11:55am
All I did was point out that it is Tebow who is singularly pointed out, no one else. Why is that? Just because he genuflects? If he made the Sign of the Cross, like everyone else, would no one care?

billsmith
Wed, May 1, 2013 12:22pm
Arthur: Probably before your time, but Hank Greenburg got a lock of flack for refusing to play on Yom Kippur, and his team was in pennant contention.

I imagine if somebody pulled out a prayer rug during a game and prostrated himself facing Mecca that would get noticed, too.

Jesus was not as tolerant on this as MikeFromDelaware:

“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

Now Tim has more opportunities to pray in secret.

Arthur
Wed, May 1, 2013 2:07pm
Then I guess Greenberg and Kofax deserved it!

kavips
Wed, May 1, 2013 5:33pm
Before the argument of Tim Tebow gets out of hand and off topic, it would be nice to remember the scenario. Tim just prayed. That's all. It was the media that made a big deal of it.. Some of us are old enough to remember when Superbowls were single digits. A lot of praying went on then. The problem was two-fold. One the media talked it up like Brent Musberger did Ms. Alabama, making it into an issue though it wasn't one, and two, after praying, miracle shots made his team win. It even beat the Steelers in the playoffs... Only when the Patriots shut down the Broncos, way down, did people begin to express negativity and hate towards Teebow...

But oddly, seeing how he has played since... it just may have been God giving him all those wins... After all, many commented upon the bizarre coincidence that Tebow's passing yards (316) and yards per completion (31.6) evoked the Bible's John 3:16. The Nielsen ratings for the game also peaked at 31.6.... causing John 3:16 to be the most searched internet item the following morning....

So, it appears there was perhaps something there afterall...

mrpizza
Wed, May 1, 2013 5:36pm
billsmith: YOU were the first one to use the greedy dictator term. You said it in the post just above mine! I was only pointing out that Obama is just like a greedy dictator.

I do blame Obama for unemployment, just not MY unemployment.
Conversely, I don't give him credit for the employment I do have. If all of America trusted in God, we wouldn't need Obama or half these programs they have out there to help the poor, because nobody would be poor. But then, I know that isn't going to happen. The only perfect world is the next one - for those who trust in Christ.

kavips
Wed, May 1, 2013 5:44pm
But if God said, you need to raise taxes, and he has repeatedly... would you follow God then?

What Mr. Pizza says in jest is actually true. If all America trusted in God and just raised taxes on the top 1% to very high levels over 75%, our nation would return to full employment.

Republicans are the ones fowling up God's will. If we want God to reward America as He did from 1946 to 2001, then we need to do what He asks and raise taxes on the wealthy. That is the only way we can have both a moral and gracious nation...

Someone said: Of all the animals in the world, which one best represents Republicans?...

Very quickly I responded.. A tick. They just latch on and ride and do no good whatsoever... all the while sucking out your blood you work to provide...

Mike from Delaware
Wed, May 1, 2013 6:20pm
Arthur and Kavips: I just don't care for the showiness of Tebow or some of the others in terms of their praying in public, because it does come across like a show [the televangelists have already soiled the land in that regard]. From any non-believer I've talked to, none is impressed; it makes non-believers less likely to consider seeking out Jesus, and for me that's the bottom line. We are to help lead folks to Christ, not chase them away from the Lord. So it's nothing against Tebow personally [he's a brother in the Lord], but the showiness doesn't seem like what Jesus would do.

Sorry, I've never been one to be showy or glitzy with my walk with Christ. I have no problem telling you here, online, on the radio, or live in front of 1,000 people about Christ, but it's not about impressing folks with how "spiritual" I am [I'm a sinner saved by God's grace; I deserve the opposite]. Hopefully my actions will preach the sermon, rather than me trying to "sell" you about following Christ. Those big displays just seem worldly and nothing like what Jesus would do. I hope that explains why a Christian has a problem with Tebow and others like him.

billsmith
Wed, May 1, 2013 8:15pm
Tonight NPR reports....

"The Federal Deficit Is Actually Shrinking

Some economists are arguing that austerity measures have gone far enough.

http://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/atc/2013/05/20130501_atc_05.mp3?dl=1"

Are the right-wing, corporate media censoring this?



billsmith
Thu, May 2, 2013 6:39am
MikeFromDelaware: Allan Loudell's favorite tabloid trash newspaper reports today that Frontier Airlines, the one that wants to carry passengers to New Castle, will start charging passengers $100 for carry-on luggage.

Dumb move of the decade. Anybody (meaning business travelers especially) who does not want their luggage lost and who doesn't want to wait at baggage-claim will save $100 and drive to Philly. That's in addition to those who don't want to wait a couple of days for the next flight to Denver or Houston.

Oh, yes. They say this $100 fee is intended to improve service. Frontier doesn't care about the money; they just want to make people happy. They also want to make people even happier by charging for soda and coffee. Isn't that exciting?

Now, the real reason. If you book through their own website - and they don't have to pay the usual IATA commission - then you don't have to pay to carry on bags. Reportedly, Frontier wants to improve the books, so they can sell the airline (apparently no buyers are coming forward currently).

billsmith
Thu, May 2, 2013 6:54am
Christian homophobes are at it again.

Daily Mail reports...

Gay basketball player comes out as gay.

Green Bay Packers football player tweets support for him.
Wisconsin church cancels football player's speaking engagement.

Chick-Fil-A has only one location in Wisconsin. Clearly, they are missing an opportunity.

teatime
Thu, May 2, 2013 8:09am
When Jason Collins comes out as gay, he is celebrated and called a 'hero.'

When Tim Tebow comes out as Christian, he is vilified.

This is the same Christian-phobia that's being fanned by the liberal news media.

billsmith
Thu, May 2, 2013 8:53am
And Christian paranoia fanned by the right-wing media. Christians bully those around them and act like they are being persecuted when anyone stands up to them.

teatime can't see the difference between a persecuted minority and a dominant group used to always getting its own way.

If Tebow had gone to school with other kids, he might have learned some manners and respect for others. Genuflecting in the hallways can get you suspended (as it should).

Next time a Jesus Jumper tries getting in your face and shoving his religion down your throat, smite him on the right cheek and see if he really does turn the other one to you.


Mike from Delaware
Thu, May 2, 2013 8:53am
Teatime: What would your reaction be if tonight, while watching the Phillies, say Hamels gets a homer, he then kneels down on home-plate facing Mecca, and starts chanting some Muslim prayer to thank Allah for giving him that blessing? You'd be OK with that? If a Christian can kneel down on home plate or at the goal post and offer a prayer, so can a Muslim or anyone else. I'm not saying Tebow or any other person of faith, Christian or otherwise shouldn't thank God, or their god, for their success, but to make a show of it for me is the issue.

However, you do make a good point that Mr. Tebow seems to get plenty of negative media attention for his Christian outspokeness while the gay athlete who comes out is hearlded as a hero. Remember the media is of this world. That should tell you all you need to hear. They value worldly wisdom... to them the wisdom of God is foolishness, whereas the Bible says: Human wisdom is foolishness to God, just simply consider the source.

kavips
Thu, May 2, 2013 9:10am
Teatime, I think there is more there to it than you lead on.

If gays looked down at their noses at all others. If gays told everyone they were gay and would demean you if you weren't. If gays put ads on television calling all non gays infidels, and said all non-gays were damned to go to hell. If gays protested at military funerals saying that sex with another sex was unnatural and therefore unclean. If gays were the moral backbone of a conservative political party that vociferously got political points by demeaning, making jokes at, and verbally scalding those who had children by sexual intercourse,....

If gays as bosses always implied they were superior and must be deferred to if you wished any financial fulfillment in your own life,....

If gays did all of the above as various groups of Christians do now?

I think Teebow would be welcomed and it might be Collins who was vilified....

The Christian Right, (which as Mike and myself will attest) does not reflect Christianity in the least, even though since they spawn through television, they may be our most unfortunately visible side.

They are fools, who can get rich by being fools, and so they do so... If you want to see real Christians, go to a third world country and see what a difference plain, simple, normal people make, not just in economics, but in lives.

No other religion as far as I know, can do what they do..

I don't know so I'm asking. Are there Jewish missionaries in third world countries? People who are completely cut off from the First world except by a trail of funding? Who do it not to proselytize a religion, but because they are there and the need is so great, that they can't just walk away?

billsmith
Thu, May 2, 2013 9:17am
MikeFromDelaware: I am surprised at your insensitivity. A gay person, especially a gay jock, has spent his life hiding who he is - pretending he's something he's not - fearing ostracism or worse. And finally he stands up for himself and declares the truth about himself. And you compare this a self-proclaimed "Christian," living in what Christians claim is a Christian nation, flaunting his religion in public. If there is nothing in your life you are afraid to let people around you know about, you are very fortunate. Even today, gays grow up being teased, bullied and even beaten up. Especially in the macho jock culture. What this a gay person has to go through is nothing like Tebow showing off and acting holier than thou. The media response is not about Christianity or gayness; it's about self-righteousness or courage.

Besides, Tebow got more attention (and more money) with his genuflecting than his ability as a player would ever have gotten him.

EarlGrey
Thu, May 2, 2013 9:41am
Wow...this thread sure has gone off the tracks from original topic.

I heard this morning that the Saudis were informed by intelligence from Yemen...they also alerted the Brits about Suspect#1. The rich Saudi royals fear and keep a close eye on Al-Queda and other terrorist groups...they are often the target of the terrorists.

The original warning from the Saudi govt included 2 Pakistanis along with Suspect #1.

kavips
Thu, May 2, 2013 9:55am
Teatime, I think there is more there to it than you lead on.

If gays looked down at their noses at all others. If gays told everyone they were gay and would demean you if you weren't. If gays put ads on television calling all non gays infidels, and said all non-gays were damned to go to hell. If gays protested at military funerals saying that sex with another sex was unnatural and therefore unclean. If gays were the moral backbone of a conservative political party that vociferously got political points by demeaning, making jokes at, and verbally scalding those who had children by sexual intercourse,....

If gays as bosses always implied they were superior and must be deferred to if you wished any financial fulfillment in your own life,....

If gays did all of the above as various groups of Christians do now?

I think Teebow would be welcomed and it might be Collins who was vilified....

The Christian Right, (which as Mike and myself will attest) does not reflect Christianity in the least, even though since they spawn through television, they may be our most unfortunately visible side.

They are fools, who can get rich by being fools, and so they do so... If you want to see real Christians, go to a third world country and see what a difference plain, simple, normal people make, not just in economics, but in lives.

No other religion as far as I know, can do what they do..

I don't know so I'm asking. Are there Jewish missionaries in third world countries? People who are completely cut off from the First world except by a trail of funding? Who do it not to proselytize a religion, but because they are there and the need is so great, that they can't just walk away?

billsmith
Thu, May 2, 2013 10:35am
kavips: Judaism does not teach it has a monopoly on salvation. It does not seek converts. Judaism is about people living together and treating each other well. Not about getting to heaven. Organized Judaism and individual Jews have done more than their share of charitable activities - not related to "missionaries."

Christian missionaries not out to proselytize??? In what alternate universe does that happen? Most do nothing but proselytize. A few also respond to a need - easier to get people to listen to a sermon after you feed him. But getting a meal is far less important than getting to heaven.

The right has taken over Christianity, just as it has taken over the Republican Party. They call the tune. They ARE the tune. Saying they don't reflect Christianity is like saying Gitmo, indefinite detention, drone attacks on US citizens, withholding Miranda, support for oppressive dictators and assassination squads don't reflect America.

EarlGrey
Thu, May 2, 2013 10:37am
How many of the Christians blamed for these actions are really Christians? The military protestors are vile/evil haters, those who look down their noses would fit in well with the Pharisees (one of few groups Jesus had little patience with, and a group He often called out for their hypocrisy), and those who hate gays are not acting Christ-like either, but Christians need to act more like Cathy (of Chick-fil-a)... Treat all people with respect but live one's own life and raise your family by God's standards clearly written in His holy book...though society's values have changed, God has not. Even if I disagree with your views, as a Christian, I need to treat all as a creation of God.

Mike from Delaware
Thu, May 2, 2013 11:31am
EarlGrey: Well said.

billsmith
Thu, May 2, 2013 11:42am
Earl: Jesus was a Pharisee. The anti-Semitic tinge against Pharisees was added later but Jesus was well within the mainstream of First Century Pharisaic thought and his preaching is almost identical to Pharisaic leaders like Hillel. Pharisees are the basis of Judaism and Jewish religious thought for the last two millennia.

Jesus was a Jew preaching to Jews. Christians keep forgetting that. What Jesus had no patience for was self-righteous hypocrites. Christians WANT to forget that. Christians can't deal with the thought that Jesus had no patience with people like them.

EarlGrey
Thu, May 2, 2013 12:49pm
bill: Yes, Jesus followed the laws of the Torah, but no, he was not part of the actual Pharisees...Saul (pre-Paul) on the other hand was a Pharisee. Unlike the Pharisees, Jesus actually practiced what He preached.

It's true...Jesus' ministry started with, and focused primarily on the Jews, but He also ministered to the Samaritans.

billsmith
Thu, May 2, 2013 1:11pm
No, Earl. Saul of Tarsus was a Sadducee.

The Samaritans were descendants of the 10 Northern Tribes, which formed the ancient Kingdom of Israel. Jews were descendants of the Tribe of Judah, which formed the ancient Kingdom of Judea (from the world "Jews" derives).

Samaritans observed the Torah.

EarlGrey
Thu, May 2, 2013 10:05pm
"If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5 circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; 6 as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for righteousness based on the law, faultless."~Phillipians 3:4-6

And, the Jews despised the Samaritans...that's why Jesus' story of The Good Samaritan was such a poignant story.

Mike from Delaware
Thu, May 2, 2013 11:14pm
For those who didn't actually follow the Tim Tebow story of his release from the Jets, below is the ESPN news story link.

Even though I didn't like the showyness of Mr. Tebow, he is a class act. He's not bashed or bad mouthed his former team mates, the coaches, or the Jets organization, etc. It's a shame he didn't have a better season. Maybe he'll end up playing CFL football.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9222870/new-york-jets-cut-tim-tebow

billsmith
Fri, May 3, 2013 7:14am
Earl: Animosity between the Northern and Southern tribes goes way back, to the time of the Judges and before. This animosity among tribes claiming descent from Jacob was as great or greater than their animosity toward other tribes claiming descent from Abraham, or from Abraham and Issac.

EarlGrey
Fri, May 3, 2013 8:11am
Mr. Loudell..have you read this story on the UK Daily Mail? It looks like a big power struggle continues in Iran.

Was Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad arrested by the Revolutionary Guard?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317844/Was-Iran-s-President-Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-arrested-Revolutionary-Guard.html


mrpizza
Sat, May 4, 2013 10:41am
kavips: You limit God with your assertion that he would raise taxes on 1%. How do you know what he'd do? Now I don't claim to know how he'd do anything, but it's unlikely he would single out a particular groups money and redistribute it to the rest. That's stealing, and God doesn't steal.

I would submit to you instead that if everybody trusted God, that he would bless this nation with plenty for all and therefore there would be no class envy or covetousness because everybody would be in the so-called mythical 1%.

mrpizza
Sat, May 4, 2013 10:46am
billsmith: The right-wing/corporate media isn't censoring anything. Only the left has the power to censor, and as usual, they're covering up the symptoms to make it look like everything is getting better.

The current economic "boom" and the rise in the stock market is based on manipulated statistics and is artificially being propped up with more money borrowed from China or other countries, or simply being run on a printing press. Just as there was a collapse in 2008, so shall there eventually be another collapse of far greater magnitude. I can't say when that will be, but don't be fooled by the band-aids they've put on the system.

billsmith
Sat, May 4, 2013 11:06am
mrpizza sounds like he's attending services at Westboro Baptist.

Pizza's Law: If I don't like it, believe it, agree with it or want to hear it, it must be a lie. If I like it, believe it, agree with it and do want to hear it, it must be true.

The Corollary to Pizza's Law: Rush never lies; Rush is always right.

Rush has appointed 70 Dittoheads to go into a closed room when he dies and elect his successor. When they have agreed on who will take over his show, they will signal this with red smoke.

mrpizza
Wed, May 8, 2013 12:12am
billsmith: I'd be honored to take Rush Limbaugh's place upon his death if I'm still around at that time.


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