GQ wide-ranging piece on Joe Biden gets attention; Vice President coy on 2016
A wide-ranging account in GQ about Joe Biden creates buzz and gets some attention on the network.
Predictably, the Vice President seems comfortable in his own skin... says he could still die a happy man WITHOUT becoming President, but that doesn't necessarily mean he won't run in 2016. What he doesn't address is how that status of Hillary Rodham Clinton will likely impact his decision-making...
Oh come on, Allan! Don't we have more pressing matters to discuss other than this dork?
Mike from Delaware
Thu, Jul 18, 2013 10:58pm
Biden is from Delaware so it's not unreasonable to discuss him here on WDEL's blog. Who knows, I consider him a long shot, but who had ever heard of Clinton or Carter, so maybe Biden could surprise us.
Fri, Jul 19, 2013 4:16am
That would NOT be a pleasant surprise.
Mike from Delaware
Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:23am
Mrpizza: You're a Republican, why would you say that? I'd figure the GOP would rather see Biden as the Democratic Presidential nominee than Hillary, as Biden would be far easier to beat than Hillary [In DEM circles it would appear that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton are "rock stars" -they've now become the NEW Kennedy's for today's DEMS]. One thing Biden does have, is a likeability appeal, plus he's quite good with understanding the foreign affairs stuff, but then again so is Hillary.
Frankly I can't imagine why Hillary would want to run, but she could become the first female Prez and that would surely get her name in the history books, and maybe even make her bigger in history than her husband Bill [that would be sweet revenge for her, given the years of embarrassment she had endure, because of her "womanizing" husband].
Rather than worry about Biden or Hillary, the GOP's bigger worry should be: IF the economy has recovered [It's been improving and gettng better and better so if no downturn happens and we continue to move into solid ground], more people are working [not back to pre-2007 crash levels but a big improvement - car purchases are back, as the automakers are selling cars and making money again - partially due to Bush/Obama's Stimulus Programs], and we're in no war [If Obama can resist getting us into another war, we should be out of Afganistan by the next election], even some of the debt has been paid back [that's a real surprise when I read that], then folks might decide NOT to change teams and vote ANY DEM into the Oval Office rather than take a chance with a GOP Prez who might bea Bush Jr., the sequel, and bring us back to the edge of a Depression, just so the wealthiest 2% can pay less taxes [you can see what sort of radio/TV ads are going to be used by the DEMS and wouldn't be a lie as what I've stated above is happening].
Let's face it, if Team Obama/Biden can get the economy going in a solid way, bring our troops home from these Bush Jr. wars, and not get us into any other wars [thus saving more money that could be applied to pay down the debt], by then, Obamacare's benefits to millions will be happening, and barring any real problems, should end up being popular with most folks other than GOP folks [just as the Social Security plan became after folks started getting the benefit of the program], we could sort of be in the start of an economy like what Bill Clinton left as his second-legacy [debt paid off - obviously his first legacy is Monica]. WHY would anyone other than the GOP want to ruin that by putting the other team at the helm to change directions?
Frankly I believe that the GOP will probably lose more seats in Congress, other than the gerrymamndered districts that are essentially all Republican, as most folks view the GOP right now as obstructionists, they're the reason Congress and Obama can't get anything done. My guess is, that is going to bite the GOP in the butt, thus giving the DEMS more control of the Congress after the 2014 elections, thus setting them up to win the White House in 2016. I believe Hillary would be a tough candidate to beat, and possibly Biden would also be a tough candidate to beat. However, it's way too early to have any clue as to who the DEMS will run. There must be some younger DEM leaders, who, like Clinton and Carter, came out of the woodwork back then to become the DEM candidate, will do so again for 2016.
Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:29am
I think the only state that would actually vote for Joe would be Delaware...how old is he now anyway?
And, whatever you do...don't follow Joe's advice to shoot your shotgun in the air to ward-off intruders or tresspassers from your property.
Several people across the country have followed his advice (the most recent one was earlier this week in Washington state)...and have been arrested. Sad thing is quite a few actually told the arresting officer that the VP of the United States said that was the proper way to scare off an intruder/tresspasser.
Maybe Joe should take some gun-safety classes and learn before preaching to others about the Second Amendment.
Scranton Joe needs to take a break from politics and settle down...maybe in The Villages...or at least he can sing about The Villages some more ;)
Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:41am
Mike from Delaware: Don't bother trying to argue the point with Pizza. If there's one thing we've learned about him, it's that ANY Republican is better than ANY Democrat, ALWAYS. There is never, ever a reason to vote for a DEM in Pizza's view, regardless of how good things may be getting under a DEM's watch. You'll make more progress shouting this argument at a brick wall.
Mike from Delaware
Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:33am
EarlGrey: I agree that Biden's age will not help him. Barring some younger better DEM choice, if I were a DEM I'd push for Hillary over Biden.
The other thing for the GOP to consider is to NOT allow the TEA folks to dominate the GOP this time around. I truly believe if Romney had been the Romney that had been Governor Romney, he'd be Prez today. That Romney was a smart, MODERATE person. The Romney that ran for Prez had allowed the ultra part of the TEA movement to control what he said, and THAT Romney couldn't win. A moderate leaning right candidate who didn't have other problems probably could have won, an ultra-right-winger, while pleasing the gun lobby and ultra-right-wingers, would lose as this nation is more moderate than either conservative or liberal.
The TEA/GOP is far more right-wing than even in Reagan's day. It has been speculated that if Ronald Reagan ran for office today as a GOP candidate, he'd not be conservative enough to get the nomination, as the GOP has moved to the right that much since Reagan's day. Same can be said of the DEMS: Carter, as a Born-Again Christian, could not win the DEMS' nomination either, as that party has moved away from wanting Judeo/Christian values as part of the DEMS' platform. So both parties have changed, with the core of each party, having moved further to the left for the DEMS, and further to the right for the GOP. Leaving moderates with no party to represent them, so they end up holding their nose and picking what they perceive as the lesser of the two evils.
The GOP should boot-out the TEA faction and go back to being the moderate leaning right party it used to be. THAT would be a party I could get behind.
Fri, Jul 19, 2013 12:15pm
Mike: As a person who personally likes most of the Tea Party crop, I will have to disagree about ridding the Republican Party of them...the Tea Partiers are, IMHO, doing a great job holding both Rs and Ds responsible for their actions/votes.
But, I do happen to agree that it would be a mistake to put a Tea Partier at the head of the 2016 Presidential ticket...none of them have been around long enough to know what it takes to be a good president...look at what happened to our country when "we" elected a young and inexperienced representative from Chicago...
Personally, my hope is that Perry runs for president again, and this time around, I hope he's ready for the national spotlight. On paper...Perry's resume is awesome but he performed horribly in the last presidential race.
If we elect yet another Progressive Democrat in 2016, we will be like Detroit...filing for bankruptcy.
Fri, Jul 19, 2013 3:19pm
President Rick Perry? God, that's a scary though. The last Texas Twit did such a bang-up job.
There are plenty of Republicans I could get behind. Perry does not make that list. At all. Ever.
Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:09pm
Shawn: That's right. I'm a Republican, and I'm PROUD OF IT!
Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:10pm
By the way, Shawn. I have to agree with you about Perry. In fact, I thought they all did a dismal performance in the primaries last year. I do think I could get behind Ted Cruz, but we may need to keep him in the Senate for awhile.
Of course, any Republican that runs needs to understand that August 16th is not Elvis's birthday.
Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:26pm
By the way, speaking of Democrats, how about Richard Korn? Wow, what a guy! Imagine the egg on the Democratic state committee's face if he'd been elected auditor!
Mike from Delaware
Sat, Jul 20, 2013 4:49pm
Mrpizza: I too like Rick Perry, and agree that he didn't do a very good job in that primaries. Actually I like Chris Christie too. I think he'd be more electable nationally as he seems to be pretty good at working with both sides of the aisle and it would be far more difficult for the DEMS to paint him as a far-right-winger. Perry being from Texas and being more conservative than Christie might have that as an issue. Of course Governor Christie's weight could still be an issue, but he's been losing weight, so who knows.
On the other hand, after 8 years of Obama and his apology for America being America Tour around the world with all of us paying so Michelle and the kids can see the world; and his administration wanting the US to be more like Europe, the nation might be ready again for some "John Wayne" mentality in the White House. This makes me think of the Charlie Daniels song "In America". That mentality where we're not going to be the wimpy, whinny, PC nation that's going to rollover allowing the Chicoms, the Arabs, or the Ruskies, or whomever to take over the world just might be what the nation will be ready for come 2016.
To hear and watch Charlie Daniels and his band perform "In America" click below:
Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:07pm
This Charlie Daniels video is so ironic in that it was done during the dismal Jimmy Carter era. Wow, do we ever live in parallel times!
This gives me some hope. We got out of it before - we can get out of it again. Thanks Mike.
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