The furor over Bridgegate seems to be metastasizing in various directions.
From The NEWARK STAR-LEDGER:
HOBOKEN -- "Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer said she met with Federal prosecutors Sunday, a day after she alleged members of Gov. Chris Christie's administration threatened to withhood Hurricane Sandy aid from her city if she did not approve a real estate project.
The Democratic mayor said she met for hours yesterday afternoon with staff from the U.S. Attorney's Office in Newark, handing over her journal and other documents at their request.
The sit-down came a day after Zimmer levied the allegation on national television and immediately deepened the woes of the embattled Republican governor..."
Consider the irony. It was Hurricane Sandy - and Christie's willingness to embrace President Obama in a show of bipartisanship for the greater welfare of New Jerseyans - that elevated Christie's stature to stratospheric heights within New Jersey (although not necessarily with national Republicans). Now, naked partisanship in the distribution of Sandy aid could be the final nail undermining Christie -- beyond Bridgegate itself.
And Christie's political predicament invites columns and articles about his past...
CHRIS CHRISTIE: 'I DON'T KNOW' WHEN SCANDAL ENDS...
"New Jersey Governor Chris Christie was warmly received at a private event in Florida on Sunday on his first major political outing since a traffic scandal hit his administration, attendees told POLITICO -- but he said he didn't know when the so-called Bridgegate controversy would end.
The Republican and prospective 2016 Presidential candidate faced only one question about the scandal -- and when it might subside -- during the private event, said Home Depot co-founder Ken Langone..."
Meanwhile, another irony. Some of the very conservative activists who were never too keen about Chris Christie are now coming to his defense -- because of what they see as the mainstream media piling on.
MFD: You asked earlier why an ambulance would need to cross the GW Bridge when there are hospitals on the Jersey side...
The George Washington Bridge is a lifeline for organ transplants at hospitals.
Traffic on the busy span -- which was jammed for days after N.J. Gov. Chris Christie’s staff ordered lanes closed as part of a political vendetta – could mean the difference between life and death in operations such as heart transplants.
It's New Jersey. It's politics. Christie is governor because he knows how the game is played.
Back in the 1960's, Clayton Harrison was Delaware's Republican state chairman. He got Republicans elected, even mayor of Wilmington, by playing the game correctly. It wasn't pretty and was never intended to be. But it got the job done.
Some people need to grow tougher skin.
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 9:36am
Bill: In this case, the number of hospitals had nothing to do with the woman dying. She died as the crew tried to get to her house to pick her up.
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:08am
Jim, what are you talking about? The woman in the story didn't die. How do you think they were able to interview her?
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:20am
Can anybody guess what famous person was born and raised in Hoboken?
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 10:34am
Alfred Kinsey, sex researcher.
G. Gordon Liddy, Republican criminal.
Or the mafioso who had liaisons with Nancy Reagan in the White House while Ronnie was away.
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:13am
"By some accounts, Christie's predicament has sent establishment Republicans into a deep funk..."
Good...maybe this "funk" will open the eyes of "establishment Republicans" to the futility of nominating yet another Moderate. The Republican National Committee is running a straw poll right now to find out who Republicans want to see backed in the 2016 election.
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:04pm
Moderates control the Republican Party.. That is why McCain won hands down. That is why Romney won hands down. Conservatives are the ugly step child sitting at the Republican Party's table. They have to be dealt with, when they talk you have to answer them, but one wishes they never existed.
This opens the door for Jeb Bush again. Who only has his name to run on, but that is better than any other moderate. And Moderates RUN the party.
As to Christie bullying, governors do things like that all the time. It is called... "leadership" in republican circles. But as time passes it looks more and more like Allan correctly called it on this one, that because it involves traffic which all of us have the Pavlovian response to hate, it fires a visceral nerve that never will go away....
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:17pm
kavips...and all the Moderate "winners" have LOST. The Moderates want a president they can control, which is why they would prefer Christie, McCain, Romney or even Hillary instead of Rand Paul, Ted Cruz or Scott Walker. The "ugly-step children" are at least listening to their constituents...the Moderates are looking out for themselves and their political buds...they don't give a S#@% about the citizens of this country.
Christie (as I predicted) would be crushed by the media once he was seen as a serious contender to Hillary...I did think that the press wouldn't go after the NJ Moderate until late in 2014 but I guess they just couldn't risk Christie gaining steam for 2016.
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:31pm
Your assessment of the press is probably correct, but your assumption that it would be based on politics I think is in error. Keep in mind we are comparing a big fat bully to one of the best known and loved women over the past 3 generations....
So, if you were in the press, and your job depended on your coverage, would you give preference to the big bully beating up on the little old woman?
No. Not even you would. Only those moral derelicts at Breitbart could ever stoop so low and cheer every time his heavy political hand broke another political bone in her face...
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:46pm
Kavips: The media dumped Hillary in their hysteria over the "historic" first African-American president. This time they will feel the need to make it up to her - and to help elect the "historic" first woman president. Nothing gets in the way of a good story. Media hos carry about nothing but themselves.
The tea baggers have the most convenient amnesia. They manage to forget all the wing-nut candidates they pushed on the Republican Party in primaries who lost to Democratic candidates who otherwise didn't have much of a chance. Don't take my word for it. Ask Senator O'Donnell.
In most of the country, Republicans are a minority. So are Democrats for that matter. The only way to win general elections is to appeal to the uncommitted voter. It's sort of sad that people who don't care get to control the outcome but that's how this screwed up system works.
"one of the best known and loved women over the past 3 generations...."
You mean, Hillary? No way. Jackie maybe. Or Liz Taylor.
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:54pm
kavips: The pantsuit wearing/shrieking eel (Princess Bride ref) is the most loved woman of the past 3 generations?...LOL.
If members of the press did their job and pursued Benghazi as aggressively as they have Christie's Traffic-Gate, then Hillary would be in serious trouble, and a certain president would be facing impeachment...
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:48pm
Ok, I see two challenges to Hillary being the most admired women over 3 generations. First, since both of you have male names, I'll make the assumption both of you are male.
That means your range of view is already 50% depleted... Next I'll assume both of you are Americans. That taints your view by another 30 %. So to begin with, your perspective may matter to you, but it does not stand up as being the equivalent to world opinion.
Don't forget over 50% of the world's population is women. In their eyes, Hillary was probably the most important woman in the world, at one point possessing the most global power a woman has ever has had, by being our Secretary of State...
Every woman who is oppressed, beaten down in any nation across this globe, looks up to her as the paragon of what is possible. After all, the only thing she has not achieved is the Presidency.
Back to America. There is a reason the Republicans lost. They didn't have enough people behind them. That portends that more Americans prefer the elevation of Hillary's beliefs than in the suppression of her beliefs...
Since she has a majority in the world, and a majority at home behind her, I find it hard for anyone to argue she is NOT the most admired woman in the world...
Who else is there? Merkel? Too small of a range of influence. Angelina Jolie? Too little responsibility. Lindsey Lohan? Only a sex-starved Republican could respect her, and they probably already has her number, right there next to Ann Coulter's.
Unlike competition for the male role, there is no female pope. There is no female head-of-state with the same stature... I find it very difficult to fault the statement that Hillary is the most admired woman in the world.
And it is a very small step from being the most admired, to the most loved... Who out there can even compare?
And should you happen to find one... was that person at the top of the list in the 90's, the 00's, and now the teen's?
I think it is safe to say that Hillary is the most loved woman in the world... Don't you?
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 2:52pm
Just saw the Benghazi remark made by Earl.
Earl, even the CIA says Hillary was faultless. Did you not follow their testimony in Issa's hearing?
The CIA blames Benghazi on Darrel Issa's committee cutting the security funds forcing the administration to balance security costs across a plethora of embassies and counsels.
Are you saying now, that you KNOW more than the CIA? C'mon.
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:50pm
kavips: I'm saying your information in not factual...and Hillary is far from faultless on this one.
Beware of Shrieking Eels!
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 3:57pm
And kavips, to follow up on your earlier post... Yes, I am an American male... you?
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:10pm
Kavips: Oh, come on. You are going to trot out the old PC women as victim card? Really? Women control most of the wealth in this country? And, as the song says, women learn early "how to open doors with just a smile." Women also control men. Women whine about equal pay but they don't provide equal work. Oh, no! They have to have it all. They won't do overtime because of their family. They take time off to make a baby and then expect to be promoted over the guy who stayed on the job. They want equal pay but expect guys to pick up the check. They come into the workplace and demand everything be changed to suit them. They want to play with the boys but insist the boys play by girl's rules. The mouth off but then fall back on "you can't hit me, I'm a girl." They flirt and tease to get ahead at work and then act offended if guys respond to their "wiles." The common behavior of women would cause a male to be labeled a spoiled brat. And then guys like you - the "I feel your pain crowd" - play enabler by undeservedly exaggerating the modest accomplishments of women. The school systems discriminate against boys and favor girls, but that's OK with you. Women falsely accuse me of rape and expect men to be convicted, to have their lives ruined, just on their say so (no burden of proof required). Women can claim no accomplishments as long as they get guys to do their work for them.
According to the shagtree website, the "most loved" women in the last century were: (1) Joan Crawford. (2) Marlene Dietrich (3) Lana Turner. Jack Kennedy "loved" all three of them.
"I don't think there is anything particularly wrong in hitting a woman, though I don't recommend you do it the same way that you hit a man."
"There are women who take it to the wire. That's what they are looking for, the ultimate confrontation. They want a smack."
- Connery. Sean Connery.
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 4:43pm
Bill: Would the mafioso you're referring to happen to be Frank Sinatra?
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:34pm
Receptionist: How do you write women so well?
Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.
- As Good As It Gets
Mike from Delaware
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:48pm
I believe Ole Blue Eyes is from Hoboken. Other famous Jerseyites: from Red Bank, NJ was Count Basie & Connie Francis from Newark, NJ.
Billsmith: Thanks for the info on the ambulance issue & the GW Bridge.
Kavips: Do you have a link to a story that tells of the CIA saying Hillary wasn't responsible for Benghazi? That would be useful.
Kavips: Based on your various posts dealing with women on this blog & the wording you use in those comments suggests to me that you are a woman. Is that correct?
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 5:49pm
Hey, tea baggers! 85 People own half of the world's wealth.
World's 85 richest have as much money as 3.5 Billion of the poorest people put together
* Combined wealth of entrepreneurs including Bill Gates in £1trillion
* Top 1% earners worth £67.3trillion - 46% of the world's total wealth
* Critics claim surge driven by 'power grabbing' elites close to politicians
World's 85 richest people own nearly half of global wealth: Oxfam report
DAVOS: A tiny elite comprising the richest 85 individuals hold wealth equivalent to that owned by the bottom half of the world's population, a report says. ...
"Wealthy elites have co-opted political power to rig the rules of the economic game, undermining democracy and creating a world where the 85 richest people own the wealth of half of the world's population," Oxfam claimed. ...
Read more at:
They get out of paying taxes, so you end up paying more!
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 7:45pm
bill: So what? The uber-rich will NEVER pay unless there is a flat tax and NO LOOPHOLES! Remove the loopholes and tax EVERYONE the same rate (Lower, Middle, Upper and 1%ers) and viola you have more money going to the government... Problem is no one is brave/crazy enough to do that except for some "Mad Hatter" from the Tea Party. This "fair tax" would also lessen the insane burden currently imposed on "we the Middle Class".
kavips: As Mike asked... Are you indeed a female? The last female we had here was harrassed away by the cyber-bully Mark Rice... I really miss Pennsy's input.
Mike from Delaware
Mon, Jan 20, 2014 9:08pm
EarlGrey: I too miss Pennsy's comments as she added a alternative view that more often than not I'd not considered. In the workplace too having women in the group in a meeting allows a different point of view to be heard. Women seem to see that wedge of Swiss Cheese from the other angle more often than the average guy. So as a general rule, women will bring a different perspective to a discussion, which isn't a bad thing.
Kavips: You seem to more than hold your own in any discussion here, be you a guy or a lady. It's not important for us to know, I was just curious, being nosy I guess, based on some of your perspectives presented here.
Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:39am
Earl: You tea baggers are hypocrites. Cut spending - except MY program. Cut deductions - except MY deductions. Don't you dare touch my mortgage deduction or my charitable deduction. And real estate and church lobbies spend millions to keep those boondoggles in place.
Funny thing about bitches. They pushed for the right to vote and still kept themselves from being drafted. Typical. Rights but never responsibilities.
Saw that obnoxious right-wing bitch Phyllis Schlafy on a documentary a few days ago. I hoped she was dead. Fought the ERA (giving men equal rights for a change) and pushed for traditional roles for women - but wouldn't shut up and stay in the kitchen herself.
Nobody hates women more than other women. Look how mean they are to each other.
Tue, Jan 21, 2014 8:11am
...pathetic that Loudell won't call you out on your hate-speech on his blog.
Bill, you are a bigot and add nothing to the conversation on this blog besides hate...you have consistently shown this and I am done attempting to reason with a closed-minded hater.
You/Mark Rice need some real therapy when it comes to women.
Tue, Jan 21, 2014 9:15am
Gee, Earl, you're becoming politically correct in your old age.
Have you ever noticed that women keep going for the guys who "mistreat" them. They complain about them but those are the guys who keep getting lucky, who always get the girl.
You can't pay attention to what they say; watch what they do. Nice guys, the ones who "feel their pain," get no respect (and don't even get to first base).
Tue, Jan 21, 2014 10:11am
bill: There is a huge difference between P.C. and treating others with respect...you want respect but have no problem trashing everyone else, then wonder why no one will listen to you anymore.
Tue, Jan 21, 2014 1:43pm
Sorry, Earl. I'm selective about whom I respect. And I don't care about whether I get respect from those I don't feel deserve it.
It's a shame because sometimes you make sense. And then you fall back into the tea pot.
You tea baggers and religious righties are destroying this country and you expect me to talk nice?
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