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WDEL Blog: Allan Loudell

Time to pull the plug on the Olympics?

I was going to post a link to this WASHINGTON POST column yesterday, but got busy with the Christine Dunning departure and the winter weather...

But, honestly, should the Olympics be on the way out, as Charles Lane suggests in this column... Do you ever watch the Olympics?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-lane-the-olympics-should-be-on-their-way-out/2014/01/20/cb610d62-820b-11e3-bbe5-6a2a3141e3a9_story.html


For their part, the Russians complain bitterly about negative Western press accounts about the coming Olympics, focusing not only on the threat of terrorism, but corruption, inordinate expense, treatment of indigenous peoples, treatment of gay people, etc.

The Voice of Russia's Dmitry Babich sees double-standards...


http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_01_20/Myths-About-Russia-Is-Sochi-that-bloody-and-expensive-8764/

Posted at 7:30am on January 22, 2014 by Allan Loudell

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Comments on this post:

mrpizza
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:52am
It's obvious Mr. Lane has no concept of how free markets work or even what free markets are in the first place. Like the Olympics or not (I consider myself neutral), it's a money-making business, and as long as there are sponsors and people who patronize those sponsors, it will continue to exist.

I also take exception to Mr. Lane's defense of homosexuality and happen to agree with Mr. Putin's stance that children should not be sexually exploited by homosexuals or any other kind of sexuals.

As far as his reference to the Putin regime as a dictatorship, I think Mr. Lane needs to take off his blinders and take a good look at his own president in his own country (for whom he probably voted).

billsmith
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:08am
OK, Allan Loudell, you hate sports. I get it. You've posted anti-sports commentary before. Maybe you resent that they sometimes cancel your program for Phillies games. Maybe you resented that high-school football games (and players) got more attention than the high school radio station (and disc jockeys).

Is the Olympics rife with hypocrisy - as much or maybe even more than the NCAA? Certainly? Are so-called "amateur" athletes exploited? Absolutely. Whether anybody here - you included - watches is irrelevant. The ratings show that a lot of people do watch - and they watch live, so they can't skip the commercials. And, even more important, marketing figures show that Olympic sponsorships sell products. So, they aren't going away - or even to cable.

You want everyone to believe you are "objective", but clearly you are guided here by personal animus.

If you want to argue that the Olympics should have been pulled out of Russia - months ago - then you'd have a point.

And once again, Pizza is trying to equate homosexuality with pedophilia. Just as his heroes Hoover and McCarthy tried to equate it with communism. You can't stir up hatred based on what two consenting adults do in private so you have to make the people you want to persecute into villains of some sort. It's an old trick but one can't expect originality from Pizza or his ilk.



mrpizza
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:11am
Hey Bill: Every heard of Jerry Sandusky?

kavips
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:22am
I remember similar trepidations in the press leading up to the Beijing Olympics in 2008. I'd explain it as trying to reach an certain select audience, hoping they'll buy whatever issue the article is in.

The Beijing Olympics went on to be the best summer Olympics up to that time. (I actually think the Brits topped it in 2012)

Keep in mind everyone was extremely worried of security at both those venues... equally as heightened as with Sochi, it is the perennial threat of Muslim extremism which seems to heighten all these types of venues....

As a side, it seems giving them battle in Afghanistan serves a purpose of attracting all the jihadists there, instead of letting them roam the world at will.

We may see more terrorism after we pull out and Afghanistan falls to the Taliban....

Allan Loudell
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 10:26am
Bill---

I've never denied that I don't offer some opinion on these blogs...

Incidentally, I was absolutely ecstatic when my high school basketball team won the Illinois state basketball championship one year with an unblemished 31-0 record.

For many years, I avidly followed college basketball and followed the NCAA brackets.

And I admit to having gone to the Liberty Bowl in Memphis for Illinois vs. Alabama (Bear Bryant's final game)

I just soured on college sports in recent years for reasons I have posted in the past. And I continue to believe the emphasis on sports in Delaware high schools is disturbingly disporportionate, more like Texas than the environment I encountered in the Chicago suburbs.

I agree with your Olympics observations. I don't REALLY think the Olympics are going away, or even should...

By the way, I'm still doing my news show - in the case of the Noon hour, on Delaware 105.9 F.M. and by live streaming here - if Phillies coverage begins over the Noon hour. And if the Phillies continue past 4, I'm still on www.wdel.com. I actually WELCOME those days, because it gives me more time for news and interviews, which I can later use in other ways. Only on days when the Phillies start at 6:30 am I not required to anchor, and I welcome those days because I can work on other stuff (even monitoring this blog) and/or I can leave early. So for me, Phillies are win-win-win. But, I admit I've never attended a major league game. (I have gone to several Blue Rocks games, however.)

And Mr. Pizza... I'm afraid Jerry Sandusky doesn't at all prove a link between ordinary gay people and pedophilia. In fact, quite the opposite.

Allan Loudell

Mike from Delaware
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 11:41am
My guess is if a scientific study were done, they'd probably find roughly the same percentage of homosexual pedophiles as heterosexual pedophiles. So if that is indeed the case, and say, 2% of the homosexual population has a pedophile sickness, then 2% of the heterosexual population would also have a pedophile sickness, given the fact that there are far more heterosexuals in the world than homosexuals [other than in Hollywood]; that would also mean that most of the pedophiles are heterosexuals.

As Billsmith said, the Olympics make big-time money in many ways; they aren't going away anytime soon.

billsmith
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 1:46pm
For the rest of the world, the premiere sporting event is The World Cup. Comparing the Olympics to the World Cup is like comparing the Rose Bowl to the Super Bowl in the U.S.

If anything, the greed-driven abuses of the NCAA division I football and basketball programs exceed those of the IOC.

And then look at pro-teams and all those stadia paid for by taxpayers and tax breaks to the owners - all tolerated by people who get incensed at the mention of food stamps. NPR did a story this week about how the NFL, according to its IRS status, is a non-profit organization.

MFD: You are right. Studies have been done and concluded what you said. Prejudice makes strange bedfellows. Here's Pizza calling people "communists" at a rate not seen since the witch-hunts - publicly agreeing with a guy from the KGB.

mrpizza
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 2:38pm
To Allan, Bill, and Mike: If you take a look at my original post, I said children shouldn't be exploited by homosexuals OR ANY OTHER KIND of sexual. It just happens that the homosexual element is what Mr. Lane mentioned in this particular article.

As to publicly agreeing with a KGB guy, can anybody 'splain to me what the difference is between that and agreeing with an NSA guy? In my book, the KGB and NSA are one in the same.
As far as the guys running it, I think at least as a human being Mr. Putin has a bit more class than what we currently have in the White House.

EarlGrey
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 3:01pm
I just hope the 2014 Sochi Olympics don't repeat the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre

billsmith
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 3:16pm
How else are oppressed peoples, whose plights are ignored by the rest of the world - like the Palestinians and the Chechens - supposed to get people's attention?

mrpizza
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 3:53pm
Sorry Bill, but you have the oppressees confused with the oppressors. The Palestinians and Chechens are enemy combatants and should be dealt with as such.

billsmith
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 3:57pm
And Pizza, would you have said the same about "the rebels" in the 13 colonies?
No difference.

mrpizza
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 4:41pm
And on that note, it's time for a music break:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGUOSz-rTn4

EarlGrey
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:03pm
How else are oppressed peoples, whose plights are ignored by the rest of the world - like the Palestinians and the Chechens - supposed to get people's attention?~bill

Ever heard of Gandhi, Wilberforce or MLK Jr.?

They actually made huge changes for the better WITHOUT violence!...the terrorists only create fear, chaos and death.

Maybe you should use your supposed higher intelligence to think ;)

billsmith
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:33pm
George Washington was non-violent?

Gandhi would not have gotten anywhere with non-violence, if others in India weren't using it. And if the Brits hadn't first dealt with George and with the I.R.A.

The Zionists didn't hesitate to use violence against the British Mandate in Palestine.

And the greatest act of terrorism in history: The U.S. and the Brits bombing civilian targets in Germany with the stated purpose of creating terror in the population.

Terror was also the express purpose of those two nukes in Japan.

Don't get all self-righteous about "non-violence."

mrpizza
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 5:39pm
It's refreshing to see there are at least a few in Hollywood who still have some sense of right and wrong, even if they are a bit half-hearted:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/abcs-bachelor-juan-pablo-galavis-672100

mrpizza
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 6:51pm
For anyone who would like to become educated with the facts, here's a somewhat lengthy but interesting read:

http://www.lc.org/profamily/healthrisksSSA.pdf

mrpizza
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 8:56pm
Hmmmmmm. From reading Bill's latest post, he leaves me wondering if he harbors the same resentments against America that Hitler harbored against Germany. Hard to tell though, because what he thinks about any particular subject depends on whether he's responding to someone he agrees with or someone he disagrees with.

Perhaps leopards CAN change their stripes.

mrpizza
Wed, Jan 22, 2014 9:30pm
I found an article which clarifies the Russian government's stance on homosexuality. If it only prohibits distribution of gay propaganda as stated, then I agree with it and we should implement the same restrictions here sooner than later.

Again, nobody is restricting the behavior; they're only restricting their ability to force their behavior on society as they're now doing here.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/putin-russia-must-cleanse-itself-of-homosexuality/

billsmith
Thu, Jan 23, 2014 3:17am
Pizza: "Clarifies?" Putin is tap dancing. And the network of Rather, Logan and Miller is swallowing it. The so-called "propaganda" bans demonstrations or any material on LGBT rights or marriage equality. Putin is worried about international news coverage so he's trying to act like a nice guy by, among other things, releasing the Pussy Riot protesters. Funny, how little it takes to get you to approve of a Russian dictator.

Obviously, as a closed-minded bigot, you miss the point. "Terrorist" is a label that only exists in the third person. It is reserved only for people you don't like, disagree with and are marginalized. Your "terrorist" is another person's "patriot," or "freedom fighter."

mrpizza
Thu, Jan 23, 2014 4:45am
Guess what, Bill? I agree with what GOD says about it, and God does not consider it equal - in fact he calls it an abomination among other things. And yes, "Heather Has Two Mommies" and any other material with the intent to proliferate homosexuality should be banned and replaced with the Holy Bible as the standard by which all law is made - the way it was prior to Murray v. Curlett.

An A+ grade to the Russian Federation for taking a stand for family values. Shame on the dictator Obama for not doing the same.

billsmith
Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:01am
Pizza: Your Bible is full of lots of different BS god supposedly said. What you choose to pay attention says more about you than any god. And you only choose to pay attention to the stuff that's hateful and judgmental.

MikeFromDelaware has objected in the past when I have said you all in the religious right want to impose your religious dogma on everybody else, to bully people and to create a theocracy. Well, you just said that's exactly what you want.

You like dictators. As long as you agree with them. As long as they persecute people you don't like.

There are 613 commandments in your law. And you ignore almost all of them. Not only are you a bigot, you're a self-righteous hypocrite. Jesus hated people like you. Based on your own Bible, you are not getting into heaven. No place could be heaven with people like you in it. Take a moment the next time you open up the pizza over, especially a coal-fired pizza oven, and think about how it's like your future home in there.





EarlGrey
Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:11am
mrpizza: You should look further into what Putin is really doing to the people of Russia before (even mockingly) saying you support the Russian leader...he's not a good guy.

bill: Your definition of terrorist does not fit the Founding Fathers (especially not Washington)...it's complete BillSmith to compare the two. Terrorists intentionally target innocent civilians to get their demands met, and Washington never did this.

Mike from Delaware
Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:21am
What Mrpizza is missing is some good solid Lutheran teaching about Law and Gospel. Luther's approach, as Bill will already know, is the Law that tells us we've failed, we cannot keep the Law, but the good news is the Gospel, where in spite of ourselves and our many shortcomings, sinfulness, and evil, God loves us and has a plan for everyone's salvation, including gays/lesbians.

Sadly all too often, we in the church focus too much on the Law and forget to tell others of the Gospel.

Whether or not I agree homosexuality is a sin is immaterial, fact is, it is here and those folks who are gay/lesbian need God's love just as much as myself and Mrpizza.

It's not our job as Christians to condemn, but to help others learn of what God has done for them via Jesus Christ, his Son. Just as Mrpizza and I had the opportunity to make a free-will choice, so does each person, including gay/lesbians. Even if they choose to say NO to God's free gift, it still isn't our job to bash them.

I think of how long it took me to truly see the light and realize how out of touch I was with God. How can I dare judge someone else who's having the same problem I had? All we can then do is pray for them and Agape Love them as Christ would. The rest is in God's hands.

So this bashing of gays/lesbians, be it by Americans or Russians is wrong, and in my opinion is sinful behavior. We are to love ALL, just as our Lord and Savior does. That is the Standard Jesus set for us to live by.

billsmith
Thu, Jan 23, 2014 8:49am
Earl: Read some more history. Did George personally terrorize people? No, generals seldom get their hands dirty. But troops under his command attacked, beat up, and tarred and feathered loyalists and those who avoided involvement in the conflict (such as Quakers). In addition, they were driven from their homes and farms and had their property confiscated. All this to "terrorize" loyalists and non-combatants into supporting the rebel cause.

And, as I mentioned, U.S. air forces bombed civilian targets in violation of international law to generate terror in the German civilian population.

You are defending a double-standard. Terrorism is only wrong when non-governmental organizations do it. It's OK when the government does it. Of course, one definition of crime is the ruled assuming the prerogatives of the rulers.

By the way, the descendants of loyalists still have never been compensated for the property taken from them.

mrpizza
Thu, Jan 23, 2014 7:29pm
I think both Mike and EarlGrey are missing my point. Of course, Bill is too, but I already expect that.

To answer what Earl said, I'm aware that Putin is not an angel sent from heaven. I'm only stating here that in this particular instance, the Russian government has taken the correct stance, and most governments in the West, including ours, have it wrong. The lie that homosexuality is "normal" has proliferated in school curriculums here for years, and has been presented in a subjective manner.

As a result, the radical homosexual agenda is now poisoning the minds of the younger generation and at least some of them will go beyond accepting it in others and get involved in that lifestyle themselves where they otherwise would not have except for the forcing of that agenda on our children. So right here I've just pointed out how innocent people are being hurt by this. I have to give Russia credit for refusing to allow the proliferation of that agenda on their education system, and as Christians we have an obligation before God to stand up against this practice in our own schools, regardless of how far the genie is out of the bottle.

Now to address Mike's assumption that I'm "bashing" gays, that's actually a lie that Bill Smith a.k.a. Mark Rice has continually beat the drum about. I agree with you about how these people need to be reached with the love and compassion of Jesus. Yes, they are sinners just like any other sinner; however, as Christians we have to deal with the impact this will ultimately have on society. The LGBT establishment is trying to force the church to agree with the behavior and anybody who doesn't is a bigot. Well, I'm not going to stop saying what God says about homosexuality just because somebody is offended by it.

The legalization of gay marriage, for example, is already having a ripple effect. How? Well for one thing, health insurance companies are now required to cover same-sex spouses on policies. This does more than just raise premiums for everybody else. This is by design, because now the taxpayers and policyholders are now on the hook for the next AIDS epidemic. They aren't satisfied to stay behind closed doors to commit their lewd acts. They've now become a "victim group" much like the multi-generational welfare crowd. So the government, using our tax dollars, is now doing the equivalent of giving drugs to an addict or giving booze to an alcoholic. Now that there's gay marriage, the government now provides support for them to continue their high-risk behavior.

So at the end of the day, you can't really blame gays for the problem. They've petitioned the government, and the government is now stupid enough to accomodate them. At least in Russia, they're free to engage in the behavior, but at their own risk, as it should be.

billsmith
Sat, Jan 25, 2014 5:41am
"Now to address Mike's assumption that I'm "bashing" gays, that's actually a lie that Bill Smith a.k.a. Mark Rice has continually beat the drum about."

Pizza aka Earl: We all know how quick MikeFromDelaware is to believe or accept whatever I post here. To paraphrase one of your wing-nut heroes: You post; people decide.

Now that you've let us know you are a Rising Sun redneck, some of your posts are starting to make sense. I don't know why you are so worried about tea baggers taking over the Republican Party because you are from the last outpost of the Whig Party (and of course, a hotbed for the KKK). Rising Sun shows the ugly underside of the Mayberry fantasy.


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