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New Big Brother surveillance technology: Any way to stop it?

The WASHINGTON POST carries another story about new surveillance technology almost unimaginable a few years ago.

Whether in the hands of government, police agencies, or corporations, is anyone's privacy sacred anymore?

Or did we cross that rubicon many years ago, as banks, businesses, and many other establishments began installing security cameras all over?

Are we so numbed by this invasion of privacy (along with younger people willing to share intimate details on social media); are people so fearful of crime and potential terrorism (that nearly ANY ends justify the means); and the new technology represents so much profit for Corporate America, that this diminishment of privacy is both inexorable and inevitable? Will we ever see a mass movment bubbling up in the United States to challenge it?

See this article from The WASHINGTON POST...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/new-surveillance-technology-can-track-everyone-in-an-area-for-several-hours-at-a-time/2014/02/05/82f1556e-876f-11e3-a5bd-844629433ba3_story.html

Posted at 8:05am on February 6, 2014 by Allan Loudell

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Comments on this post:

kavips
Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:14am
Yes. It will quickly get itself under control when you drop immunity to the carriers for complying with government requests (or other requests).

When 40-million-dollar lawsuits start hitting Verizon, then those requests dealing with terrorism will be honored, and those for political, business, or industrial snooping, won't....

That is all that has to be done.... Remove immunity from those carriers for damage caused by their breach of our privacy...

If someone breaches my privacy and I get a cool 40-million dollars, well, I guess it wasn't that bad.

kavips
Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:31am
On a more philosophical side, I was asked by a child what was Google Glass. I explained that it was like a camera one wore on their glasses that was connected to the internet. One could walk into the room and look around and that would be on the internet for all to see....

What does that mean? In that one room, it means that someone can come back at any time, and know that room. As I wondered, even just walking into a room, looking around, as one would do in a neighbor's house, or museum house, one gets a mental picture, but if asked... what did you see, one would probably be able to express only very general characteristics... There was a canopied bed, a table-stand with a lamp, Two pictures on the wall, Carpet was tan....

But if asked ... was there loose change on the night stand? Do they clean well? Are they organized? How dirty was the carpet? Do the take old nails out of the walls when they move pictures? Are they neat crisp tuckers of the bed-sheets, military style, or are the the kind that just make it look nice because in 16 hours they're going to mess it up anyways? All those are negative blows that could be directed at a personality, could be used against him in employment, against him in personal relationships, be used against one politically... But would be invisible to the eye and brain of those given the opportunity to glance into the room.. but, at a couple of finger movements could all be seen in details down to pixal level.. Does that mean to keep our reputations now, we need to spend 3 hours every morning before work, straightening our rooms? If so, that kills productivity because cleaning our rooms to that level of perfection is far less beneficial to society than applying our skills and time towards work, whatever it may be.

Furthermore, I only let friendly eyes into the room. But now, anyone, enemies, psychopaths, ex-spouses, ex-lovers, bidding-competitors would now have access to those negatives...

...Which means, I'll have to work overtime to make those go away.


Mike
Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:33am
Too many people have been scared into believing there's a terrorist around every corner, and the government has taken advantage of that fear (which it created).

EarlGrey
Thu, Feb 6, 2014 10:18am
The mass movement (if there is going to be one) will have to take place in 2014/2016 against any/all politicians who favor this illegal surveillance of U.S. citizens... Rand Paul (2016) would go against this 4th Amendment violation but how many others really would?

Or, we can all collectively drop off FaceBook and turn off our "smart-phones" (GPS tracking/data-collecting spy most Americans have with them at all times). But, we all know no one would voluntarily do either of those acts of "rebellion".

kavips
Thu, Feb 6, 2014 12:20pm
But we could scramble them and only give those we know, the keys to read them.

mrpizza
Thu, Feb 6, 2014 7:59pm
Kavips: I think you're a bit confused. It isn't the phone carriers who are doing the snooping; it's the government. Hopefully, there will be a massive TEA party takeover this fall which will bring the tyranny against the American people under control.

billsmith
Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:02pm
Meaning the tea party will control the tyranny and they will limit their surveillance to people's bedrooms and other aspects of their private lives. Corporations will not be surveilled. They will do the surveilling and profit from it.
A lot of people like Pizza lived in Germany in the 30's and one day they woke up and discovered they had fed themselves to a monster. Pizza can expect a similar shock.

mrpizza
Thu, Feb 6, 2014 11:12pm
Bill & Kavips: We will be a benevolent dictatorship, with the Bible as the foundation of our rule. We'll repeal Murray v. Curlett and require Christianity-based religious instruction in all schools (yes, all other religions will be banned). Only then can we rebuild the moral foundation this great nation was founded upon. Yes, we'll be called Nazis and bigots and racists and intolerant, but eventually a true sense of right and wrong will be restored, making well worth it for all of humanity.

America was created by people who wanted the freedom to do what is right. There is only one right and one wrong, and only what is right according to what God says is right will be tolerated, because only then can there be true freedom.
Those dissenting will simply have to find another country.

billsmith
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 7:53am
MFD: OK, you saw what your "brother in Christ" just stated as the position of your religious movement. Silence implies consent. Are you going along with this?

You act like you don't understand how I or anyone could be critical of Christianity. What Pizza said is why.

EarlGrey
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 9:55am
bill: I'm pretty sure mrpizza was attempting humor...neither Christians nor the Tea Party want to become tyrants, dictators or fascists.

The Tea Party wants LESS government and Christians simply want to live their lives without government forcing them to violate their religious beliefs.

Mike from Delaware
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 10:21am
Mrpizza: If that is an attempt at humor, you need practice, because I read it and got the same meaning and tone as Billsmith did; but like EarlGrey, I am hoping you're being sarcastic, attempting some tongue-in-cheek commentary, in an attempt to push Bill's and Kavip's buttons.

Because IF not, then what you said is NOT what Christ has us here to do and is totally wrong. As one of Jesus' followers, who takes his walk seriously, that is NOT my vision for the U.S.

I can agree with EarlGrey's comment: "The Tea Party wants LESS government and Christians simply want to live their lives without government forcing them to violate their religious beliefs."

That vision I can accept and agree with, even though I may not agree with how the TEA folks try to achieve that.

Mrpizza: Please clarify your meaning for all of us.

billsmith
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 2:07pm
MFD: Thank you for speaking out. I have no interest in having anyone violate their own principles (or religious beliefs) up to the point that they don't violate anyone else's principles or force their own beliefs on others. Unfortunately, there are too many instances when Christians (and others) have done just that or tried to do just that, often in the name of protecting their own beliefs. Nobody wants to stop Pizza from going into his closet and praying in secret, as Jesus recommended, but he is saying he wants to force everyone to participate in public prayers - his prayers. He is saying that he knows what is right and his is the only correct standard of what is right. Doesn't sound humorous to me.

mrpizza
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 7:13pm
To Earl & MFD: Bill has compared me to Hitler on several occasions, so I was simply giving him the logical conclusion of his own thinking.

I must warn, however, that America is coming to a place where it will need some strong medicine very soon, and the scenario I've painted may be the country's only chance for survival if it goes too much farther down the evil road.

billsmith
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 8:05pm
No, Pizza, I don't compare you to Hitler. I compare you to the ordinary Germans who swallowed his line of BS and enabled him to take power and then saw everything destroyed. I doubt you have what it takes to take over a country.
But thanks for making it clear you are not joking.

mrpizza
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 8:44pm
Just as ordinary Germans swallowed Hitler's line of BS, so are Americans swallowing Obama's line of BS. Difference is that Obama is a lot smarter in that he knows how to commit mass destruction without actually killing people's physical bodies - he only makes people wish they were dead.

mrpizza
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 8:47pm
Well, he does intend for people to die as early as possible. That's the agenda behind this Obama healthcare scheme. Masses of people are no longer able to afford health insurance so they'll die from their diseases and save the government billions or even trillions in social security and other government costs.

billsmith
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 5:38am
Pizza, you are really off the deep end this time. When people turn 65, LBJ's "socialized medicine" kicks in to keep people alive. Your Bircher predecessors fought that one, too. Before they turn 65, Michelle is out telling people to heat healthy and exercise and you tea baggers make jokes about that. You just have this irrational hatred of Obama and you are determined to hate anything he does. There are enough things that you could criticize legitimately but that's not good enough for you. You hate HIM and you have to attack HIM. This is what you get from your Bible? I wonder what you all would do if a real progressive and effective politician ever took office. Of course, if it were a straight White male Presbyterian you'd really be at a loss finding something to hate but you all would come up with something. After all, Thomas Woodrow Wilson was a straight White male Presbyterian and you were telling lies about him 100 years after the fact.

mrpizza
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 8:15am
Believe what you want, Bill. When you reap the consequences, don't say ole' Mr. Pizza didn't warn ya.

Mike from Delaware
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 2:39pm
Mrpizza said, "We will be a benevolent dictatorship, with the Bible as the foundation of our rule. We'll repeal Murray v. Curlett and require Christianity-based religious instruction in all schools (yes, all other religions will be banned). Only then can we rebuild the moral foundation this great nation was founded upon. Yes, we'll be called Nazis and bigots and racists and intolerant, but eventually a true sense of right and wrong will be restored, making well worth it for all of humanity.

America was created by people who wanted the freedom to do what is right. There is only one right and one wrong, and only what is right according to what God says is right will be tolerated, because only then can there be true freedom.
Those dissenting will simply have to find another country."

And later said,

"I must warn, however, that America is coming to a place where it will need some strong medicine very soon, and the scenario I've painted may be the country's only chance for survival if it goes too much farther down the evil road."

Mrpizza: Our job, as followers of Jesus Christ, is to make disciples of all nations NOT to create some Christian "utopia" where our personal version of Christianity is the only game in town as we rule with some iron fist forcing Jesus on all.

Would Jesus even suggest the stuff you posted? Nothing I've ever read of his words remotely hint at this. This sounds more the the Zealots of Jesus' day who wanted a "political savior". They had their daggers ready to kill those who they hated. Remember they were the one's who turned on Jesus and yelled crucify him as they cheered for Barabbas.

Jesus said, my kingdom is not of this earth. We are ambassadors from Heaven. Earth is not Heaven, nor is it Hell. It is our mission field. What you're saying is so wrong and definitely NOT what Jesus would say or do, that I can not keep silent. Please go read the words of Jesus in the New Testament and spend some time with the Lord. Somehow, you've been pulled onto a side trail that's not where you want to be.

It can be frustrating sharing the Good News as our society has more and more turned its back on what we are saying. We can not allow ourselves to become part of the world, but to be a chosen people to serve, love humanity as Christ did. That's the take up your cross thing I mention every now and again. Through Christ all things are possible, but it only can happen in his timing and in his way, which is never hatred, but love, grace, and forgiveness.

billsmith
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 4:02pm
MFD: To coin a phrase - "well said."

One small point. The gospels make no mention of the Zealots as being the ones in the crowd calling for Jesus' crucifixion. The Zealots advocated revolution against the Roman conquerors and occupiers of Judea. 30 years after Jesus' time, they did persuade the populace to revolt. History shows them as freedom fighters or rebels. If you condemn them, you'd better condemn George Washington, too. Yes, they wanted to set up a Jewish state but Judaism has always mixed religious and civil law in ways Christianity never has. (Paul called for obedience to government.) I think you are giving them a bum rap here.

Besides, people who want to overthrow a government are not going to support it in holding an execution. And Mark specifically states it was the priests (Sadducees) who stirred up the crowd to call for Jesus to be crucified instead of Barabbas. Matthew and Luke vaguely say that Barabbas was involved in an "insurrection" but do not say he was a Zealot. Many groups acted in opposition to Roman rule.

mrpizza
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 5:51pm
MFD: I would disagree with your above statement about 90%. I believe part of our Christian duty is to expose evil, especially when it comes to those who are supposed to be watching our backs.

My scriptural example? John The Baptist

By the way, what I said about a benevolent dictatorship is a worst-case scenario which I hope wouldn't have to be imposed, the same as a responsible gun owner hopes he never has to use the gun.

mrpizza
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 6:29pm
Oh! I almost forgot. Following the battle of Armageddon, Jesus himself will be setting up a Christian eutopia similar to the one I described. It's called the Millenial Reign.

Could that be happening sooner than later?

billsmith
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 7:11pm
Pizza: In your apocalypse myth, Jesus will kill off everybody else in order to create this "eutopia" for you all. I suppose that's part of your fantasy, too.

Pizza, if you think god doesn't want you to drink, don't drink. But don't enact prohibition to force everybody to go along with you. If you don't think god wants you to make out with other guys, don't do it but leave gays alone. I am not taking your word for what god wants anybody to do. You haven't had more contact with god than anybody else. There's no burning bush at your house. You didn't spend 40 days on top of Mt. Sinai. Just because you get an idea in your head, doesn't mean it comes from god.

That guy who owned a whole network of Christian radio stations said Jesus was supposed to show up last year, after he didn't show up several times before that. Now, he's dead. Jesus is not here. And you haven't been ruptured. But if you really think the world's going to end anyway, why are you so concerned about policing everybody else? What you should be worried about is you telling Jesus that you made a big show of your religion and stuck your nose in everybody else's business to get them to behave. And Jesus saying I said not to do that. Go away; I don't know you.

mrpizza
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 7:50pm
No Bill, your conscience condemns you and can't handle truth, so you search the news for examples of Christians misbehaving so you can feel better about yourself. Unfortunately for you, you won't be able to use hypocrites as an excuse when you stand before God.

billsmith
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 10:24pm
Pizza, as long as you're here, I don't need further examples of Christians misbehaving. What excuses are you planning to use?


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