WDEL Blog: Allan Loudell

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So which stories / issues / topics grab your attention this weekend?

As he first indicated during an interview with WDEL, Wilmington Mayor Dennis Williams delivered a budget address in which he called for a 9.9 percent property tax increase, which would translate to an average monthly increase of $6.54.

Williams also proposed hiking water & sewer rates by 8 percent, and storm water utility rates by 7 percent.

During his address, the mayor noted the relative decline in shootings for the first three months of 2014 compared to the same period last year, but did the severe cold and unending winter storms perhaps have something to do with that decline? Let's see what happens with spring.

Former New Mexico Governor (and onetime Democratic Presidential candidate) Bill Richardson swept into Legislative Hall in Dover to urge Delaware House members to pass a measure which would abolish capital punishment here in Delaware. Richardson, who once supported the death penalty himself, says he's troubled by the number of death-row inmates found to be innocent. Somehow, though, one senses lawmakers are so dug in on this issue (on both sides), that no visitor nor argument will budge them.

Just a day after a U.S. district judge in Baltimore issued a preliminary injunction barring Carroll County commissioners from invoking the name of Jesus Christ in their pre-meeting prayers, one of the commissioners defied the judge, invoking J.C. twice. Commissioner Robin Frazier says she's willing to go to jail for her beliefs, and a lawyer for the American Humanist Association said Frazier would no doubt get her wish. However, the board of commissioners struck a more conciliatory tone Thursday afternoon, saying that while the board would persist with its legal battle, it recognized Judge William Quarles' ruling had the force of law.

Perhaps not surprisingly, the White House and the Holy See offered rather different takes on Thursday's meeting between President Obama and Pope Francis. President Obama emphasized the areas of agreement - social justice, economic inequality, plight of the poor, etc., whereas a statement from the Vatican noted Mr. Obama's discussions with the Pope and top Vatican officials focused "on questions of particular relevance for the [Catholic] Church in [the United States], such as the exercise of the rights to religious freedom, life, and conscientious objection."

From Page One of Friday's NEW YORK TIMES:


"The Port Authority official who directed the shutdown of lanes to the George Washington Bridge said that he informed Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey about it at a Sept. 11 memorial ceremony while the lanes were closed, according to an internal review that lawyers fot the governor released on Thursday.

The official, David Wildstein, who was a longtime political ally of the governor, told Mr. Christie's press secretary, Michael Drewniak, of the conversation at a dinner in December, on the eve of his resignation from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, according to the inquiry.

But the report said that Mr. Christie did not recall Mr. Wildstein's raising the topic during their interaction and, in a sweeping claim of vindication, found no evidence that he - or any current members of his staff - was involved in or aware of the scheme before it snarled traffic for thousands of commuters in Fort Lee, N.J., from Sept. 9 to the morning of Sept. 12..."

Meanwhile, irate friends of Christie's fired deputy chief of staff, Bridget Anne Kelly, reportedly see sexism in that report. They point to such characterizations of Kelly as duplicitous, weeping frequently, and dependency on men for approval and stability.

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has overturned a lower-court decision that held a portion of Texas' sweeping abortion restrictions were unconstitutional. The ruling gives the Lone Star State the green light to continue enforcing the provision indefinitely. Those abortion restrictions have forced nearly twenty clinics to close. Texas Governor Rick Perry praised the ruling as "good news for Texas women and the unborn." Of course, Planned Parenthood blasted the ruling as "terrible". Further, "Safe and legal abortion will continue to be virtually impossible for thousands of Texas women to access." Look for this case to come before the United States Supreme Court.

A district court judge has ordered Texas corrections officials to reveal the source of lethal injection drugs to be used to execute two men next month, but the ruling stops short of making that information public.

Obamacare update: According to the White House, more than six million Americans have signed up for private health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, with a clear spike in enrollments just before the March 31st deadline. That falls short of the initial projection of seven million people signing up by the end of March, but it beats the dismal expectations a couple of months ago.

The United States Air Force has relieved nine nuclear missile commanders of their duties after as many as 91 missile-launch crew members found themselves implicated in a cheating scandal on proficiency exams.

From FOREIGN POLICY on line:


"American intelligence sources have told Obama administration officials and key Congressional staffers that there is mounting evidence that Russia is putting the pieces in place for an invasion of eastern Ukraine, and the possibility of an imminent assault cannot be ruled out, according to people with direct knowledge of the matter..."

The United Nations' human rights committee offers a scathing verdict on the United States' human rights record, blasting U.S. policies on torture; drone strikes; the failure to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay; and the National Security Agency's bulk collection of personal data. (Not that I'm seeing much of this story in the U.S. popular media; I'm reading this in The GUARDIAN.)

You know how movie theaters jealously guard their monopoly for selling foods and beverages -- considering those sales are vital to profit margins. But, the Park Slope Pavilion in Brooklyn, New York, imposed that policy to the extreme: The movie theater called police to deal with a diabetic movie patron who was eating strawberries obviously purchased outside the theater. 41-year-old financial analyst Michael Kass has Type 2 diabetes and said he couldn't eat the junk food sold at the theater. He said he carried in the pre-washed strawberries to keep his insulin level in check. A theater worker discovered the "forbidden fruit" near the theater entrance. Kass says the worker told him to throw away the strawberries. Kass said he tried to explain his medical affliction, but the worker didn't seem to care. So Kass returned the strawberries to a sack and took a seat in the theater. The manager and a pair of cops arrived in the viewing auditorium about ten minutes later, escorting Kass out. Calling in two cops to enforce theater policy? Really? (If theaters want to avoid this problem, maybe they should sell some fruits & veggies.)

The Delaware Art Museum sell-art-or-die story has gotten national attention in art circles, making it into The Los ANGELES TIMES. The reaction was certainly not positive...


Posted at 8:21am on March 28, 2014 by Allan Loudell

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Comments on this post:

Fri, Mar 28, 2014 9:04am
"American intelligence sources have told Obama administration officials and key Congressional staffers that there is mounting evidence that Russia is putting the pieces in place for an invasion of eastern Ukraine, and the possibility of an imminent assault cannot be ruled out, according to people with direct knowledge of the matter..."

Yep, and Poland is calling up all their military reserves...just in case. I'm sure they (and Europe) now see what "flexibility" means in our relationship with Russia.

Europe had better wake up quickly or face deja vu all over again (to quote the great Yogi Berra).

Fri, Mar 28, 2014 9:11am
Unlike many NATO nations, Poland plans to increase defense spending in 2014 to $10.4 billion, a 2% increase over 2013, making it the highest in the country’s history.

Mike from Delaware
Fri, Mar 28, 2014 10:39am
Europe would rather the U.S. spend its money, get our men killed, so they'll do nothing and come crying to the U.S. that we once again will need to bail them out. At least Poland learned something from 1939.

Fri, Mar 28, 2014 11:07am
"...the mayor noted the relative decline in shootings for the first three months of 2014..."

If the entire city of Wilmington were wiped out and the mayor was the only one left, he would send out a presser stating under his leadership crime is no longer an issue in the city.

Fri, Mar 28, 2014 12:05pm
In the mayor's defense, it is hard to shoot people when it is too cold to point straight... or too cold for the people you want to kill to stand outside long enough so you can aim at them. Let's see if the warmer weather causes them to make up for lost time...

I am glad the mayor is raising taxes.. Raising taxes is needed across-the-board and should be felt 435 times harder on the 1% because they earn 435 times more than the 99% of the rest of us. No one can say that is not fair. I also think that the charter of Wilmington should now be changed allowing it to annex the neighborhood of Westover Hills. It is where Charlie Copeland lives and his house is 200 feet from the town's border. That move alone would shift New Castle County's surplus of $8 million over to the city which has a deficit of $3 million , giving it an increase of $5 million in spendable dollars... there is no reason really not to....

Mike: The U.S. has a vital interest in insuring stability occurs in Eastern Europe. If it means war, then even on a small scale, war would be preferable to the cost we would later incur by allowing Russian aggression to go unchecked...

The problem we have to deal with is this... Is Putin crazy? Right now, we don't know... It is a guess either way. If he moves further into Ukraine, we will then know he is crazy... A move into Ukraine appears to be his next step now if you have been following the news of the buildup along the border and the closing of commercial airspace over that region.

If he is crazy then, as we should have recognized with Hitler, we need to act now, and not wait until all of Europe is overrun... 20,000 troops should make enough of a deterrence, and it would certainly help if they were partly Chinese. I would not place them on the front line, but perhaps 200 miles away from the front, so they could be moved up in any direction were the insane action from Putin to actually occur. From their placement, it would be clear we were not there to attack Russia or retake the Crimea, but were there to prevent any incursion further into Eastern Europe...

There is the possibility that since Putin's calculations seem to have been wrong on China's siding with Russia in all of this, that he is on the defensive now in his own country, and the wild card is that since he erred and may quite possibly crash his economy, possibly for a decade, he must have at least some territorial gain in his position as his sole bargaining chip for later negotiations... I'll admit that is a stretch, but if there was anything we learned from studying the KGB files after the Soviet collapse, was that almost all the international crises we endured as the United States versus the Soviet Union, were entirely crafted as domestic political necessities... and were not executed primarily to expand the imperial scope and range of the Soviet Union.

Mike from Delaware
Fri, Mar 28, 2014 1:31pm
Kavips: If and when Putin moves on the Ukraine, then I'd agree with you. Until then, the people of Crimea voted 95% YES for wanting to return to Russian rule, whether we like it or not. Given most of them are Russian, it's no surprise. The Ukraine, though, is different. It isn't a Russian majority and I'm not hearing any clamor from the Ukrainian citizens wanting to join Russia. But at this point, we need to wait and watch.

We always jump in fast and then our men/women's lives get lost and we spend Trillions of dollars we don't have, and nothing changes. We leave, and the place in which we intervened, be it Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Libya, etc., etc., ends up little different, usually worse, than before we went in. So we make no difference. This nation-building stuff has got to stop.

Mike from Delaware
Fri, Mar 28, 2014 1:36pm
Kavips: Why should those folks in Westover Hills be forced to be a part of Wilmington? Just because someone's home borders the city doesn't mean the city should have the right to force you to now become a part of the city; that is wrong. If Wilmington were a far better city to be a part of, then they might have folks asking to be annexed into it, but who in their right mind would want to be a part of that mess? Those folks bought their home as a non-city property; the city should NEVER be allowed to force them to become part of the city.

The County has that surplus, because the County is better run than the City. So why should we in the county be punished, because the city elects corrupt folks, or incompetent folks to run their city? Sounds like the residents of the city need to clean house in city council and city hall.

Fri, Mar 28, 2014 3:10pm
MFD: I don't know if the county is run any better than the city.

What is different is that the county collects a lot of its funding through real-estate transfer taxes, while the city relies on property taxes and the payroll tax. Remember Gordon talking about how he never raised taxes when he was county exec before? Well, it was during the midst of the housing bubble and the county was flush with transfer tax money. That was none of his doing. Now, the real estate market is starting to pick up again and the county is doing well.

Don't get me started about stormwater fees in the city. I've been fighting them for about 5 years now on that. Just don't believe the mayor when he says that those fees go for storm water. They don't; they go into the general fund, which is illegal.

Mike from Delaware
Fri, Mar 28, 2014 3:16pm
I seem to be in the minority here on Allan's blog, but CBS reports a poll that says:

"Most Americans don't think the U.S. is obliged to intervene in the recent annexation by Russia of the Ukrainian territory of Crimea. A majority of 61 percent of Americans do not think the U.S. has a responsibility to do something about the situation between Russia and Ukraine, nearly twice as many as the 32 percent who think it does. There is widespread bipartisan agreement on this."


Mike from Delaware
Fri, Mar 28, 2014 3:21pm
Dunmore: Yes I remember all that with Gordon.

The city is corrupt and mismanaged, etc., etc., and I want nothing to do with it. So as a resident of one of the nearby older suburban developments, I do not want to give the city the "right" to force me and my community to become part of their three-ringed circus. If I had wanted to be a part of the city, I'd have bought a house in the city.

If you live in the city, you have my condolences.

Fri, Mar 28, 2014 3:43pm
Remember: the American people also were against WWI and we had to trick them by sending the Lusitania, and then we had to get our harbor bombed at Pearl...

Point is, polls aren't the best indicator of what we should do. Experts are.

Fri, Mar 28, 2014 3:45pm
The reason for annexing that section, is that is where the money is. Lots and lots and lots of money... So it needs to be taken. Because the very last people you can trust with your money are the rich.

Fri, Mar 28, 2014 3:46pm
Dunmore: of course they go to the general fund.

Fri, Mar 28, 2014 4:49pm
Looking for Pizza's take on this....

Alexander Lukashenko, the strongman leader of Russia's neighbour and long-time ally Belarus, has been cool about Crimea joining Russia, saying the move sets a "bad precedent". Belarus pointedly didn't send observers to Crimea's 15th March referendum on joining Russia, and Lukashenko has said he is ready to work with the new Kiev government, which Russia says is illegitimate.


Does this mean he is lining up with the West?

Fri, Mar 28, 2014 8:27pm
Lukashenko lines up with whomever he needs to at any given moment. It depends on which direction the political winds blow. One thing about him that's constant is that he shakes his fist at the West with one hand, while taking money from us with the other.

Sat, Mar 29, 2014 12:44am
One thing that Kavips and Joe Biden consistently have in common: They've never seen a tax increase they didn't like.

Sat, Mar 29, 2014 11:17am
A more simplistic description of Lukashenko is that he lines up wherever he can get a handout. In this case, the feeding trough is located in the west.

Sat, Mar 29, 2014 2:57pm
Actually Mr. Pizza, there are quite a few taxes I do not like. I sometimes argue specifically for the return of certain taxes because all the charts show we cut a few taxes we shouldn't have, or even better, we should have targeted how those tax cuts had to be spent if one wanted to collect them.

Now since we didn't do preventive medical care to our nation's economy and finances, we have to do post-operative medical care.

Sat, Mar 29, 2014 3:54pm
Lukashenko sounds exactly like John boehner.

Sat, Mar 29, 2014 6:51pm
Kavips: You're right about the post-operative medical care.

As for Lukashenko/Boehner, I'm no fan of either one, but I still find more similarities to Obama than Boehner.

Sat, Mar 29, 2014 6:59pm
Ya know Kavips, you bring up a good point about different kinds of taxes, etc. For example, a government entity will pass a tax that's supposed to pay for a specific project, but the tax never goes away once the project is finished or it gets spent on something else entirely. One way to fix that would be to place an expiration date on the tax when it's passed. Unfortunately, politicians wouldn't have anything to raid if they did that.

But yes, there needs to be a complete examination of not just budgets to government departments, but of the taxes that fund them. If they get rid of taxes that are outdated, then they can more properly fund current needs.

Perhaps a suggestion to our representatives would be in order. Doubtful they'd follow it, but never hurts to try.

Sat, Mar 29, 2014 7:10pm
Mike from Delaware: In response to your post about Russia/Ukraine, I generally agree with the 61% with regards to intervention. The problem is, 20 years ago Bill Clinton signed a treaty called the Budapest Memorandum, which the media is saying very little about, but in that treaty we agreed to guarantee Ukraine's security and Russia also made the same promises in exchange for Ukraine turning over their nukes to Russia.

Now of course, I don't expect Russia to keep their word. They broke the SALT treaties and so of course they'll break this and all the other ones they sign. Also, the Clinton administration was totally stupid to think Russia would keep their word after Yeltsin was gone, and therefore Ukraine's nukes, which I argue should have never been surrendered, but at least surrender them to us an not the Russian Federation. The theory behind Ukraine surrendering the nukes was to keep them out of the hands of rogue terrorist groups, but we all know that didn't work because Russia is full of rogue terrorists.

Bottom line, I say America has an obligation to protect Ukraine because we signed a treaty promising to do so. If we don't, it makes us no better than Russia.

Mike from Delaware
Sat, Mar 29, 2014 7:57pm
Mrpizza: yes another stupid, not well thought out treaty the "Brain Trust" in DC instigated and agreed to. We should have never agreed to that treaty. The Ukraine is a different breed of cat from Crimea. The Crimeans wanted to go back to Russia, the Ukrainians do not. So maybe we should give the Ukraine a few nukes so they'd have something to back up their words of not wanting to be retaken back by Russia. In other words that treaty is essentially an invitation to launch WW3. Putin knows that & knows we're not going to risk nuke war over the Ukraine ( Cuba getting missiles 90 miles from our border is a very different thing as that is a direct threat against the US, Ukraine is not).

Funny how you guys worry about us keeping our word on promises made to some other nation, yet have no problem with the TEA plans to stick it to folks Social Security. The governments word to its own citizens isn't worth much so why should it be better for foreigners?

So give the Ukraine a few nukes (they'll be better more reliable than the old nukes from the former USSR) & keep our men/women & our wallets out of this mess.

Sat, Mar 29, 2014 10:33pm
Mike, I would only disagree with you on one point. It's not the TEA party sticking it to us. They in fact are the ones who want to save social security and everything you're concerned about. When it comes down to it, every lie can be laid at Obama's doorstep (remember "you can keep your plan and you can keep your doctor?").

Otherwise, point well taken. A government that won't keep its word to its own citizens has no moral authority to help anybody else.

Sat, Mar 29, 2014 11:19pm
MFD: God has given me a word for you, but first I need to preface it with a personal story. 40 years ago, the Democrats were spreading the same rumors about Nixon that they're now spreading about the TEA party. My stepfather, who was retired from GM, was stricken with fear that Nixon was going to take away his pension and any associated social security benefits.

He passed away in 1985, but my mother to this day is still receiving survivor benefits from that GM pension plus SS/Medicare, and that's despite GM going bankrupt, etc.
I believe the word God wants you to hear is "Fear not, for I am with thee". And a personal admonition: Cut back on the news and take in more of the GOOD news. In the meantime, enjoy some great black gospel:


Sun, Mar 30, 2014 12:14pm
Calling all liberals! Calling all liberals! Read the following article and shake in your boots!


Sun, Mar 30, 2014 5:04pm
Uhh.. Pizza... shake in our boots is a little extreme... Maybe laugh a little at what a former jailed and convicted former exterminator has to say...

Anyone who thinks the worst villains in American history are Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR, may find two people who think like himself, but won't sway the votes he would need to win...

Sun, Mar 30, 2014 6:03pm
Uh..Kavips..excuse me..Tom DeLay was exonerated on all charges!

Mike from Delaware
Sun, Mar 30, 2014 8:26pm
Mrpizza : I agree with the admonition. Still we are not to put The Lord our God to the test. God will provide. He also gave us a mind to use. Many people need their Social Secuity check, and until the GOP / TEA party states very clearly that they won't lower the Social Security benefits, the age they can retire, etc. for those of us 55+ then in all good conscience I can not vote for any Republican/ TEA candidate for Prez or Congress. It's that simple. They want my vote then its hands off changing Social Security for the 55+ crowd. If they want to mess with YOUR post office pension, be my guest. You think I should fall on my sword and gladly let those idiots steal our Social Security, even though we've all done our part. Well I believe you should fall on your sword & encourage Congress & the Prez to cut back your post office pension. Yep you've worked the required years, etc, but what the hay, you get them to cut your pension since you shouldn't ask me or anyone else to do something that you yourself wouldn't do. Let me know when Congress slashes your pension , then we can talk.

Mike from Delaware
Mon, Mar 31, 2014 8:19am
Mrpizza: I finally was able to access the Washington Times piece you posted [can't copy and paste on my i-Pod or I don't know how to do so]. Obamacare, I have issues with, because the Prez lied and misled the American public to get it passed. But Teddy Roosevelt? He gave us our National Parks. FDR? He is the greatest President since Lincoln. Tom DeLay is saying George W. Bush was a great President??? That ought to set off alarms in most people's heads that DeLay is wrong.

By the way, some of your rich Republican pals are quietly making efforts to put up Jeb Bush as the 2016 Prez candidate. Granted he's the smarter of the two Bush boys, but do these folks really believe America will have forgotten the mess George W. left this nation in only 8 years ago??? Is the nation ready for another Bush to be Prez? This sounds like a winning situation for a Hillary victory in 2016. If Jeb's the best the G.O.P./TEA folks have, then get ready for a Hillary Presidency.

Mon, Mar 31, 2014 8:40am
Jeb Bush is NOT a Tea Party candidate...he's yet another Karl Rove/G.O.P. establishment/moderate who has zero support from the Tea Party.

Rand Paul, Cruz, and Rick Perry have Tea Party support...not Jeb or Christie. And I agree with you that if yet another moderate is nominated to go against Hillary...we will have President Hillary Clinton in 2016...

Mike from Delaware
Mon, Mar 31, 2014 10:26am
EarlGrey: I believe a conservative moderate vs. a foaming-at-the-mouth, far right-wing conservative is the ticket. The key things that kill G.O.P. success is the fear that they'll screw up Social Security for the 55+ crowd, and that they'll take away Women's Health/Birth-control/Abortion stuff.

That's why I say a conservative moderate, because the more-foaming-at-the-mouth conservatives totally hate Social Security and would have no problem trying to stop those female issues, thus pushing two major voting blocks to vote for the DEMs. Remember, people vote THEIR wallets and what they see as in their best interest.

As it is, many women will vote for Hillary only because she's a woman, sort of the same thing that happened with blacks and Obama.

So if Rand Paul and Rick Perry want to win, if one of them is nominated as the candidate, then they really need to speak out so that even the mainstream media can't get it wrong that they'll not touch Social Security for the 55+ crowd, and they'll not do anything to prevent women from getting their birth-control/abortion stuff.

Mon, Mar 31, 2014 2:53pm
I get it Mike...you are scared someone from the government will take away your retirement funds. Do you now understand why younger voters don't believe they will see any of their social security once they reach retirement age? You are right around the corner to retirement and I have twenty plus years before reaching retirement age...who really thinks S.S. will still be around in 20+ years the way things are going?

The solution is to send out those social security checks to everyone who already paid in and allow "younger folks" to invest, IF they want to, a larger portion of THEIR OWN MONEY. If you simply put the money in the bank it's a safer bet than letting the government handle our money with the promise of "giving it" back to us after working our entire lives. Not a very good return on investment..

FDR gave us the Second Bill of Rights and made government FAR too powerful and too involved in our private lives. He's definitely not in my Top Ten list of presidents...only a notch or two above Truman in my book.

Return to the First REAL Bill of Rights and maybe our country will return to the "shining city on a hill" it once was...

Also, I understand the theory of running a Moderate Republican...problem is the theory doesn't seem to work. Dole, McCain, Romney, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie...they are all the same.

Mike from Delaware
Mon, Mar 31, 2014 3:26pm
EarlGrey said, "The solution is to send out those social security checks to everyone who already paid in and allow "younger folks" to invest, IF they want to, a larger portion of THEIR OWN MONEY. If you simply put the money in the bank it's a safer bet than letting the government handle our money with the promise of "giving it" back to us after working our entire lives. Not a very good return on investment."

I can agree to that solution. The far easier solution would be to simply raise the ceiling on the Social Security tax so that income above 100K/per year gets taxed. Say raise to 200K. From what I've read, that would make Social Security solvent into the 22nd century. Meanwhile, offer the young workers that option you discussed. This way, those younger folks have a choice, Social Security or the bank investment plan you mentioned. Some will pick the bank plan, others Social Security. That would be a real win/win for everyone.

Romney could have won, IF he'd been the same Mitt Romney that was Governor, but he tried to be something he's NOT, a far right wing TEA person and even his kids said they didn't know the guy who ran for Prez. He didn't run as that Moderate leaning conservative leader who did so well in Mass.

Another thing that didn't help him was many "fundamentalist Christians" would never vote for a Mormon, so they stayed home.

Lastly, what put the final nails in his election coffin was those guys like Santorum who kept bringing up those women's isssues, thus rallying women in droves to vote Democrat.

McCain was too old and he picked Sarah Palin as his VP candidate thus demonstrating with his first decision as a Prez candidate that he wasn't Prez material.

Christie could have pulled it off in 2016, but with Bridgegate, he's now damaged goods. Jeb Bush has a far different problem, he's George's brother. While the nation seems to like the Clinton's [I believe the word Clinton comes from the Latin word for Tefon - heh heh]. Many have Bush fatigue, so even if Jeb would be a far better Prez than his "less smart" brother, he's got no chance at this point as the nation is still recovering from "W's" administration.

Mon, Mar 31, 2014 6:32pm
"The far easier solution would be to simply raise the ceiling on the Social Security tax so that income above 100K/per year gets taxed. Say raise to 200K. From what I've read, that would make Social Security solvent into the 22nd century. Meanwhile, offer the young workers that option you discussed. This way, those younger folks have a choice, Social Security or the bank investment plan you mentioned. Some will pick the bank plan, others Social Security. That would be a real win/win for everyone."

I agree 100%...now if only a brave politician would put those plans into action.

I also agree with you on Romney's pandering to the Tea Party...thing is most in the Tea Party knew he wouldn't keep half of his campaign promises if elected but he was the only other choice. The Republicans need to find someone their base will be excited to vote FOR and not simply someone who isn't Hillary. BTW, anyone who thinks voting for Hillary is the equivalent of voting for Bill Clinton had better look into she really is....Bill was a smooth Bluedog Democrat but Hillary is a die-hard Progressive. I wasn't Bills biggest fan but he was much better Democrat president than 0bama or Jimmy Carter...he didn't tank the economy or stir up chaos in the Middle East like the other two Democrats.

Mon, Mar 31, 2014 7:14pm
MFD: Guess you'll have to learn the hard way. I sure can't talk any sense into ya.

Mike from Delaware
Mon, Mar 31, 2014 11:49pm
EarlGrey: well said.

Mrpizza : I'll have to learn what the hard way? You completely blew off my challenge to you. You want me to vote for people who'd stick it to me & millions of other baby boomers who paid their Social Security premimums ( in my case for 47 years of full time labor when I hit age 66). But you won't do the same thing by asking them to cut your Post Office Pension, sure seems hypocritical to me. You want yours, but too bad for us. Good luck convincing baby boomers to vote for that.

What EarlGrey & I suggested in our dialog is a workable solution. It gives folks like me what we've earned & gives the kids a choice between The bank plan & Social Security. That would be a winning plan for the GOP / TEA party to have in their platform that the DEMS would not be able to bash & more importantly would finally be a realistic plan that would meet the needs of both young & old in terms of knowing their will be a plan for them when their time comes to retire, that's a real win/win.

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