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POLITICO: The Obama Paradox

Another one of those lengthier pieces, but well worth the time: The tale of a deeply fatigued President and Presidency, yet with the newfound sense of being able to discuss things more candidly. But still a President much more comfortable talking about the "big things" with the "literati" than more mundane things with his fellow Democratic politicians. Oh yes, and how he's given up recreational basketball almost exclusively for golf.

From POLITICO:

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/the-obama-paradox-107304.html?hp=t1

Posted at 8:24am on June 2, 2014 by Allan Loudell

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Comments on this post:

Mike from Delaware
Mon, Jun 2, 2014 9:00am
Interesting, but yes, a long article. My take-aways from the article are:

Obama is self-centered, as he seems only to be interested in a campaign when his name is on the ballot, and not that interested in the upcoming Senate races. Granted, there are a number of races where he's not welcomed to come and campaign for the DEM candidate, but he apparently also is showing a real lack of interest.

Obama has been putting on the "home boy" thing to win his first and second terms [probably why he also attended Rev. Wright's Chicago church], but now no longer needs those "street creds" as he'll no longer be running for office, so he no longer plays basketball, but rather golf. From what I've read in other places Obama is not very good at basketball, probably because he didn't play it as a kid when his name was Barry. He probably was more of a geek. The article claims he's afraid of getting hurt, yeah, because he's not very good at the game, and looks rather sorry from what I've read elsewhere. I know many old men [literally in their 70's] who played basketball back in college, and still play today.

Obama is an intellectual as he went to Italy and wanted an evening-long dinner [as they do in Italy] where all sorts of things from Art, Literature, cities, etc., were discussed with various well-educated guests.

Obama is a thinker, not a fighter, and probably has tired of the political game.

My guess is he can hardly wait to get out of that fishbowl, a.k.a. 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and to start a foundation as Clinton did for world betterment. Obama is a guy with lofty ideas and politics may allow for lofty ideas, but you've got to get down and dirty which really isn't Barack's style. He'd rather discuss it with you and get a consensus and then go forward.

As more and more of the political focus is honing in on Hillary and her possible run for Prez, less interest is being shown in Obama, his term essentially is over, thus leaving him and Michelle nothing better to do than have lavish parties at the White House that you and I get to pay for.

kavips
Mon, Jun 2, 2014 1:37pm
Politico is not an unbiased news organization. They provide a conservative slant on all they report. Which is their right. No objection here.

But, there are a lot of points missed. One, the success of this president. Taking a step backwards and looking at his accomplishments.... which for short memories frequently commenting on this blog, I'll list below....

1. Passed Health Care Reform

2. Passed the Stimulus

3. Passed Wall Street Reform

4. Ended the War in Iraq

5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan

6. Eliminated Osama bin laden

7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry

8. Recapitalized Banks

9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”

10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi

11. Told Mubarak to Go

12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies

13. Improved America’s Image Abroad

14. Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Spending

15. Created Race to the Top

16. Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards

17. Coordinated International Response to Financial Crisis

18. Passed Mini Stimuli

19. Began Asia “Pivot”

20. Increased Support for Veterans

21. Tightened Sanctions on Iran

22. Created Conditions to Begin Closing Dirtiest Power Plants

23. Passed Credit Card Reforms

24. Eliminated Catch-22 in Pay Equality Laws

25. Protected Two Liberal Seats on the U.S. Supreme Court

26. Improved Food Safety System

27. Achieved New START Treaty

28. Expanded National Service

29. Expanded Wilderness and Watershed Protection

30. Gave the FDA Power to Regulate Tobacco

31. Pushed Federal Agencies to Be Green Leaders

32. Passed Fair Sentencing Act

33. Trimmed and Reoriented Missile Defense

34. Began Post-Post-9/11 Military Builddown

35. Let Space Shuttle Die and Killed Planned Moon Mission

36. Invested Heavily in Renewable Technology

37. Crafting Next-Generation School Tests

38. Cracked Down on Bad For-Profit Colleges

39. Improved School Nutrition

40. Expanded Hate Crimes Protections

41. Avoided Scandal

42. Brokered Agreement for Speedy Compensation to Victims of Gulf Oil Spill

43. Created Recovery.gov

44. Pushed Broadband Coverage

45. Expanded Health Coverage for Children

46. Recognized the Dangers of Carbon Dioxide

47. Expanded Stem Cell Research

48. Provided Payment to Wronged Minority Farmers

49. Helped South Sudan Declare Independence

50. Killed the F-22

If you failed to read each one, you can be forgiven, there are a lot... But you must in turn forgive this administration for resting a bit. You just had to read. They had to accomplish these... They just might be a little tired.....

PS.... one can't even find a list over 11 of Ronald Reagan's accomplishments.... Or Bill Clinton's for that matter. Like Roosevelt, Lincoln, and Washington, Obama will be judged for what he did. Truly one of our greats. Oh go ahead and jest. There were those who mocked Roosevelt, Lincoln, and even Washington as well...

They were properly called.... the minority.

Mike from Delaware
Mon, Jun 2, 2014 4:17pm
Kavips : you should have been hired as Obamas' spokes person. You are far better at it than Jay Carney.

The polls show Obamas' approval ratings have fallen considerably since the "glory days" of Yes We Can.

However in fairness it is rare if I ever hear, other than from you, offering such an extensive list of accomplishments of your favorite President. That is quite a list. So yes, he got more done than most might want to admit. You may be correct that he'll be remembered in history more positively than during his time as Prez. I believe that can also be said of Harry Truman.

EarlGrey
Mon, Jun 2, 2014 5:07pm
Mike: You are so correct on kavips and Carney...even Carney couldn't keep up with the "malarkey" spin...and quit.

kavips
Tue, Jun 3, 2014 5:40pm
Mike, when you work in a corporate world, you get used to how opinions get manipulated to promote one person over another. It's how one gets more money. Because someone is tainted as bad, doesn't mean they are so. In fact, they could be good, and it is the bad people who are tainting him so, to get him out of the way so they can do their bad with no hindrance....

Therefore, as one in charge, you look at what they do, and ignore what they say... After all, anyone can say, anything. Not that many people can "do"... Sometimes it is those doing things who complain about someone without results. But more often, it is those doing nothing, complaining about someone who is doing great things....

All I do, is apply that to politics.... What got done. You have a list... That is all... It is just a list.

What has the Republican Tea Party got done? ...... ...... ...... .... ..... .... .... ....

Gosh, I really can't think of anything positive... Can anyone help?

Mike from Delaware
Tue, Jun 3, 2014 5:49pm
Kavips: good point.

EarlGrey
Wed, Jun 4, 2014 9:46am
kavips: The Republican Tea Party is outnumbered in all three branches of government...so you're right they have not "done great things"...yet.

Your list of accomplishments is hysterical...you sound more and more like Baghdad Bob every day. For those who forget who Baghdad Bob was...

He is best known for his grandiose and grossly unrealistic propaganda broadcasts before and during the war, extolling the invincibility of the Iraqi Army and the permanence of Saddam's rule. His announcements were intended for an Iraqi domestic audience subject to Saddam's cult of personality and total state censorship, and were met with widespread derision and amusement by Western nationals and others with access to up-to-date information from international media organizations. In the US he was popularly known as Baghdad Bob, in the UK as Comical Ali, and in Italy as Alì il Comico.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Bob

Mike from Delaware
Wed, Jun 4, 2014 10:47am
EarlGrey : Other than the money being missed used by the banks in the bail-out, that list looks impressive. I realize Obamacare is the other issue, but the fact they got it passed is big.

EarlGrey
Wed, Jun 4, 2014 11:30am
Mike: I know that I view this administration with a very different perspective than you and kavips...but you honestly believe that list?

I won't even bother getting into the ACA debate, but here are a few others from the list...

Passed the Stimulus
It was bad enough when Bush did it (and I’m sure you were against it then).

Passed Wall Street Reform
LOL…WallStreet owns this guy.

Ended the War in Iraq
True. And has anyone bothered to report on the mess Iraq has fallen back into?

Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan
True. And told our enemies exactly how much longer they need to wait until they can again regain control.

Eliminated Osama bin laden.
True. Sure the SEALs did the real work but he did sign off on the mission. So, this I will concede as a success.

Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry
Again…very funny.
Compare the Big Three:
Chrysler (July 21, 2011, Fiat bought the Chrysler shares held by the United States Treasury. With the purchase, Chrysler once again became foreign-owned)

GM (makers of the ”rolling sarcophagus”)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-21/dont-you-dare-call-your-gm-car-decapitating-kevorkianesque-rolling-sarcophagus-or-yo

FORD.
Which one is actually producing high quality autos? Hint: The only one that didn’t take taxpayers' money.

Toppled Moammar Gaddafi.
True. And with the removal of the dictator, threw the country into chaos and under the control of Al-Qaida and other Islamist militias.

Told Mubarak to Go
True. And, left the country in the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood and now the Egyptian military.

Reversed Bush Torture Policies.
True. Now rather than the “torture” of water… you simply receive a U.S. drone. Only one of the two options (water vs. drone) guarantees you (and multiple innocent bystanders) die!

13. Improved America’s Image Abroad
HA HA HA! Too funny..name one country where that’s true.

15. Created Race to the Top
RaceToTheTop is no better than NoChildLeftBehind… Ask most teachers “off the record”

16. Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards
Wow, boosted "standards"! Maybe if they took food (i.e., corn) out of our fuel, our cars would get better mileage, run better, and STOP PUTTING FOOD into our tanks.

21. Tightened Sanctions on Iran
Was this before he loosened the sanctions on Iran?

22. Created Conditions to Begin Closing Dirtiest Power Plants
You mean using the EPA to force power-plant shutdowns? Better be ready next winter if it’s like this past winter… tock up on wood because the grid isn’t going to be able to sustain another winter like that, without blackouts.

36. Invested Heavily in Renewable Technology
Like Solyndra? GM Volt? Fisker? Corn Fuel?

37. Crafting Next-Generation School Tests
Like Common Core?

41. Avoided Scandal
True…and his BIGGEST accomplishment of all.

46. Recognized the Dangers of Carbon Dioxide
Golly! Carbon Dioxide is bad? Maybe we should do something crazy like plant more trees!...or stop exhaling?

Mike from Delaware
Wed, Jun 4, 2014 2:57pm
EarlGrey: You make good points with your rebuttal .

What would have happened if Chrysler & GM both went belly-up? My guess is Depression. So even though it would have felt good to tell Chrysler & GM to go pound sand, it was probably better for the U.S. economy to keeping them up & running. So it's one of those eat-your-spinach things, not what you or I would want, but the better choice.

EarlGrey
Wed, Jun 4, 2014 3:52pm
Mike: They should have been allowed to go through bankruptcy... had they done this, they would have been able to haggle with the unions/pensions, fairly treated their shareholders and downsized their businesses (focusing on a few autos/trucks that are profit-makers)...instead FIAT bought out Chrysler, and GM has cost the taxpayers billions, produced lousy products and given their CEOs huge bonuses from OUR money.

I don't care how much the CEO of a private company makes; however, when our tax dollars are being used to pay them, huge paychecks that just adds insult to injury.

IF they had failed...others would have filled the void left by those companies...that's the way our system is supposed to work.

Mike from Delaware
Wed, Jun 4, 2014 9:15pm
EarlGrey: you talked being fair to the stockholders, what about the workers? Those folks would have lost their pensions & their jobs while the Tea folks would bash them for being takers as they dare to collect unemployment. Look at the laid off GM & Crysler employees here in Delaware. Thanks to the bail out they still have their pension even though they lost their jobs.


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