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Wilmington & Chicago: A tale of two cities with escalating 4th of July weekend shootings

The Williams Administration in Wilmington seemed to be making some headway with its strategy against street crime, but things have taken an ugly turn.

As reported here, a stray bullet took the life of an innocent woman coming out of the Adams Market at West 7th & North Adams Streets Sunday night.

Then Monday afternoon, an undercover police officer spotted a speeding silver Buick that officers believed had been involved in a previous shots-fired incident in the area of West 35th and North Market streets. The officer went after the Buick, and one of the occupants shot at the undercover vehicle. A bullet struck the passenger side window. The Buick eventually crashed into a parked vehicle on Northwest Street and three people started running away. Two suspects arrested; one still at large.

If misery loves company, one need only consider Chicago.

This is pretty incredible, even for a big city during the summer.

The CHICAGO TRIBUNE reports a Fourth of July weekend toll of 82 shot, of those 14 fatally shot. The Chicago Police Department had even intensified the police presence in certain neighborhoods on the city's South and West Sides. Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel may have a reputation as a tough guy, but that doesn't seem to matter much for drug-running gangs operating with impunity. (The street violence has become a great political drag on the mayor, even though many Chicago neighborhoods are pretty much unaffected. Emanuel can only envy past Chicago mayors, burdened by a poor response to a snow storm. Sounds downright innocent! That's mostly how Jane Byrne beat Michael Bilandic for the Chicago mayoralty in 1979.)

Rival gang members apparently fear each other a lot more than they do police.

From The CHICAGO TRIBUNE---


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-fourth-of-july-toll-82-shot-14-of-them-fatally-in-chicago-20140707,0,5439185.story

Posted at 7:00pm on July 7, 2014 by Allan Loudell

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Comments on this post:

mrpizza
Mon, Jul 7, 2014 8:33pm
Obamaland.

Mike from Delaware
Mon, Jul 7, 2014 9:30pm
I guess Chicago got tired of Wilmington grabbing all the headlines in terms of gun violence.

EarlGrey
Mon, Jul 7, 2014 10:12pm
Interesting follow-up story after the last one...I guess time will tell if tough gun control laws in cities like Chicago work better than the concealed-carry laws in Georgia.

"“If more guns made us safer, the US would be the safest nation in the world.”

The failure in this logic is that it's not just the number of guns that increase safety it's the number of legally-owned guns in the hands of trained/permitted carriers that increases the safety factor. Areas where law-abiding citizens are forbidden to own firearms create safe-havens for criminals who don't obey the laws in the first place. That's why more laws only discriminate against those who follow the laws or make ordinary citizens law-breakers in order to protect their families/homes.

On to another topic...anyone else following the Southern border insanity? It seems to be approaching a boiling point...and someone is going to do something stupid. Thankfully nothing happened during the Bundy Ranch stand-off...but people are tired of being lied to and mocked by this administration and government bureaucrats. People who have followed the rules are getting screwed over and those who blatantly flaunt their disdain for our country's laws are given free passes, free healthcare, free citizenship, free schooling...etc. If we are no longer a nation of law/order we are one step away from a dictatorship...

EarlGrey
Mon, Jul 7, 2014 10:32pm
"...expressed frustration at the fact that the illegal immigrants are being "rewarded" for breaking the law--after illegally crossing the border, they receive a slew of taxpayer subsidized benefits like housing, food, education, vocational training, and legal counsel. Most are then released onto U.S. soil.

When U.S. citizens break the law, on the other hand, they pay the price."

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/07/06/SOURCE-FEDS-To-Bring-in-Riot-Squad-Against-Illegal-Immigration-Protesters

Mike from Delaware
Tue, Jul 8, 2014 8:46am
EarlGrey: You are only seeing one side of this issue. The reason nothing gets done in stopping the illegal immigrant invasion is because: Democrats WANT those folks here, because 99.99% of them when finally allowed to vote will vote Democrat. The Republicans, on the other hand, has supporters who own businesses that like getting very cheap labor at slave wages, so that's why we get so many illegals here. Even these slave labor jobs look real good compared to being dirt poor in Mexico or Central America.

Where are all of the TEA/GOP big mouths calling for very high fines against these businesses?? Currently the fines levyed against such employers are so low they simply look at it as the cost of doing business. The fine and the slave wages are still cheaper than paying an American wage and only hiring legal Americans. So it's not just the illegals who are breaking our laws, it's some of our own citizens too.

Let's throw a few of those employers in the slammer and fine their companies into the ground THEN you'll see far less jobs here for those illegals which will also cause many of the illegals to leave on their own.

So BOTH DEMS and GOP/TEA have plenty of blame to go around. Both party's are the problem.

Now that it's politically correct to want those illegal folks here neither GOP/TEA or DEM's are going to do anything to change that, because the Hispanics are the next majority as the White population continues to age and decline in population. Yep that means the Hispanic voice will continue to get louder and they'll continue to make the US into their image and the European image that has served this nation well will continue to vanish [a similar thing is happening in Europe with the Muslim culture]. A Mosque goes up every week in Europe whereas a church closes its doors almost as fast.

So probably in our kids lifetime and definitely in our grandkids lifetimes, Spanish will become the official language of the United States. Cinco de Mayo will become a bigger holiday in the US. Today we have Black History Month. Eventually we'll see Hispanic-American History Month as their population will want their story to be told just as loudly as the Black commmunity has done with theirs. The History in our school books will change as it won't be written from a Eureopean perspective, but a Hispanic perspective. History is written by the victors, not the losers.

Some will say this is pretty negative, but witness what we see today. Most Mexicans don't want to become Americanized, most keep to themselves and don't want to learn our customs, they want to celebrate Mexico. They don't want to be Mexican-Americans, theire loyalty is with Mexico period. They simply see the US as their cash cow.

My guess is the Black community won't be real happy with the Hispanic community becoming the majority passing them by leaving them still in a minority status.

The other strange thing will be that as European White America becomes the minority that might make for some new and strange political bed fellows between the Black and White communities. Eventually the white community will no longer control the government, the Hispanic group will and my guess is our nation will be a very different place that day than it is now. Obviously this is not going to happen next week, but 50-100 years from now?

This is what I call the "Trojan Horse Invasion". It's right there before our eyes like the Trojan Horse was at the gate of the city of Troy in Greek Mythology. Unfortunately for the US this isn't a Greek Mythology story, its real.

Interesting on Jim Bohannan's show the other night, he discussed this issue and told the audience what some of the Mexican laws are: serious jail time for entering Mexico illegally, non-born citizens can not own land by the coast, so no beach front property for non-citizens, no welfare, no food stamps, medical care, etc, etc, for illegal immigrants in Mexico. Non-citizens are not allowed to protest the governement, or publicly fly their natiion's flag, etc.

Funny how illegal Mexicans get to do all that here in the US, yet we're the bad guy. Are we being played for a bunch of suckers or what.

As I've said numerous times, it's not their race [I don't want Europeans or Asians sneaking in either], but that they come here illegally and due to their number will over take the nation as some point is a concern. Legal immigration means the US controls who and how many enter our nation. THAT's the issue, if this were being done to the US by millions of Europeans I'd be just as concerned. Sadly we're just sitting here allowing it to happen.

So yes legal immigration, NO to illegal immigration.

EarlGrey
Tue, Jul 8, 2014 9:26am
Mike: I agree with you that both political parties are to blame for the current immigration conundrum we now face...but the current issue going on at the border is more than "undocumented Democrats" or cheap labor.

One way to view the problem is if you imagine the world as the Titanic and each country of the world is a lifeboat...each lifeboat can only support so many people. To ensure your boat actually survives and helps get the citizens to safety you need to make sure any new arrivals are safe to board. So, you interview the new people coming into the boat to ensure they (1)don't have the plague (or some other disease that will kill everyone else on your boat (2)aren't' murders/rapists/or gang members who will hurt/maim/kill those on this imagined boat and (3)have a sponsor on the boat to vouch for this person's identity/character.
Our "lifeboat" already has a lousy economy and government debt that has us on the verge of going under...the last thing we need is thousands of people with unknown backgrounds/health history coming in and overwhelming "the system".


Our immigration system is broken too but rather than addressing the problem people are being allowed to break the laws and enter into our "house" without permission. The LEGAL immigration system needs to be fixed, the approval process sped up and the large expenses dramatically lowered...our country needs LEGAL immigrants if we wish to have a vibrant cultural Melting Pot. That is one of the reasons America is so great...how many other countries around the world embrace different cultures compared to the United States of America?

Arthur
Tue, Jul 8, 2014 9:34am
when does the new shot detection system go online?

kavips
Tue, Jul 8, 2014 9:49am
Psychologically, I would say with all the coverage, I might have awakened this morning with the thought... gee, I would like to shoot some people too... Wonder what it would be like to be like Johnny Cash and "watch them die"?

Then, I rationalized myself out of it.. But wonder how many today will not?

Mike from Delaware
Tue, Jul 8, 2014 10:13am
EarlGrey: I agree with your post. I believe we're mostly in agreement on this issue.

EarlGrey
Tue, Jul 8, 2014 10:46am
One of the many Chicago shootings this past weekend was stopped by a vet w/ concealed-carry license:
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/7/chicago-veteran-concealed-weapon-turns-tables-4th-/

kavips
Wed, Jul 9, 2014 4:48am
"It was the night Chicago died."

Shawn
Wed, Jul 9, 2014 9:47am
Got a gun, 'fact I got two
That's okay man, 'cuz I love God
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Feels so manly, when armed

Don't think, dumb is strength
Never shot at a living thing
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Feels so manly, when armed

Always keep it loaded
Kindred to be an American

I can feel your heart
I can feel your heart through your neck
I can feel your heart through your neck
I can steal your heart form your neck

"Glorified G", Pearl Jam

Mike from Delaware
Wed, Jul 9, 2014 10:20am
Shawn, those lyrics imply that only conservative Christians are packing and want to steal your heart from your neck. Yet I bet most if not all of those who shot folks in Chicago and Wilmington are NOT conservative Christians.

I don't agree with many in the conservative Evangelical branch of Christianity and their obsession with guns, but far more folks are shot by someone else with a gun in America than those conservative Evangelicals. So on that specific point Pearl Jam got it wrong.

Shawn
Wed, Jul 9, 2014 2:16pm
And yet who were the people bringing fully-loaded automatic weapons into public places such as Target, Starbucks and Chipotle? Conservative Tea Party Christians. They're part of the problem, too.

EarlGrey
Wed, Jul 9, 2014 2:43pm
...did you happen to see their Conservative Christian cards?

I don't recall anyone identifying themselves as Conservative Christians... I'm sure most were NRA card-carrying members, many would be registered Libertarians, some probably Tea Party members, and NONE were carrying FULLY AUTOMATIC weapons in any of those stores...they are Class III weapons.
BTW, how many people were harmed/shot/killed at those stores while those "folks" were there?

Mike from Delaware
Wed, Jul 9, 2014 3:30pm
Shawn: You're making an assumption that ALL conservatives are some sort of Christian. I personally know folks who are extremely conservative Republicans who watch /listen to and swear by FOX "News" and elRushbo; and are NOT Christians in any sense of the word. They are Fiscal Conservatives, not social conservatives or religious at all, much less conservative religious and do not claim Christianity in any way. They simply don't want to pay TAXES, believe FDR was a Socialist, they don't give a hoot about Abortion, or the government forcing churches to provide abortions, bakers having to make wedding cakes for gay/lesbians, etc. They do hate Obama because they believe he's a Socialist, etc, etc.

Just like there are Liberal Christians, which always seem to surprise those who are Fundamentalist Christians [they'll tell you certain denominations are not saved, etc].

Truth is there are all sorts of Christians, very some very liberal types to some very conservative types and others in between. You can't put all of who follow Christ into one box and say, there you have it, a Christian. I think you can see from this blog site, that there are a number of us here who claim Christ as our Lord and Savior, yet one is an Orthodox Christian, a Roman Catholic, a couple who are various forms of Evangelical [non-denominational], and I am a Lutheran. We all worship the SAME Risen Christ, but have different ways of expressing our faith and past the bedrock beliefs of Christianity that ALL Christians have, we then have our "interpretations" of the other things, etc.

mrpizza
Wed, Jul 9, 2014 6:54pm
I don't "interpret" the Word of God. I OBEY the Word of God.

Mike from Delaware
Wed, Jul 9, 2014 11:17pm
Mrpizza: You obey the word based on your understanding of it, just as all of us who are Christians do. Even St. Paul said he sees through smoke-colored glass & won't see clearly until the Perfect comes. So are you claiming you understand God's word in a clearer manner than St. Paul? Sure doesn't sound humble follower of Jesus to me, but more like a Pharisee.

mrpizza
Thu, Jul 10, 2014 7:18am
No, I just think the idea of interpretation is too much work. It's easier for me to just read it, regardless of Greek or Hebrew or King James or NIV or whatever, then do what it says. For me, simplicity rules the day, and God rules the universe.

Mike from Delaware
Thu, Jul 10, 2014 8:42am
Mrpizza: So you read every word in the Bible as literal and never figurative or symbolic. The Song of Solomon, Psalms are poetry, which are not read the same as a history, a ledger, the law, a biography, etc. So when it says in Psalms 96:12 let all the trees sing for joy, you expect the trees to break into song?

12 Let the fields be jubilant, and everything in them;
let all the trees of the forest sing for joy.

Psalm 96:12New International Version (NIV)

If you said yes, then you intrepreted what you read, if you said no, then you interepreted what you read. If you don't interpret what you read, be it the Bible or the newspaper, you're simply reading words and aren't thinking about what your reading. I think God would be insulted if we read the Bible that way. I believe he wants us to consider what he inspired all those folks to write and compile into a library of 66 books. The Bible is a book for people who think. There's a lot there.

It would be simpler if the Bible was a check list telling us point by point what God wanted us to do, but that isn't what God did.

Do you have the same understanding of the Bible as you did when you were 6 years old and read Bible Stories or 16 years old as a youth? My understanding has grown considerably since I was those ages, my guess is so has yours. So you probably have a different understanding of God's word today than you did in years past and will have some new insights as you age, that too is part of interpreting the Word. God continues to teach us as we grow and learn.

That's why there are many different denominations, each inteprets the Word a bit differently than the others. Again interpretation, all are reading the same Bible, yet they all get something different after the basic bed rock stuff.

You like simplicity, well life was far simpler when the Roman Catholic Church didn't allow the people to read the Bible and only the Church told you what it said and what it meant [one of the issues that sparked the Protestant Reformation]. Martin Luther did make our lives more complicated by making it so each of us can read for ourselves God's Holy Word. Somehow, I don't believe that you'd want to go back to those good ole days prior to Luther posting his 95 Thesis on the church door.

So to use your quote from earlier, Ole Mrpizza won't let the Bible get in the way. If you read the Bible with preconceived ideas and beliefs you're missing the point. We should read the Bible to hear what God says, which can challenge our beliefs. So allow God to grow you and teach you, I've got to do the same. We all do. Be at Peace.


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